New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2 - Page 3

hi AU RNs and AU RN hopefuls! i think we should create an allnurses.com-related blog. The blog should contain the step-by-step; links on website and PDFs; fees; misc FAQs on job hunting, the immortal zero experience issue, which state, where to stay during BP, among others. I'm suggesting this to save every newbie the trouble of scanning through all the pages of this forum. The gist of everything from Philippines to BP to job hunting to having a stable job should be the content of the blog. But if it's not allowed, nevermind! haha!

*sigh* i just can't wait to be an AU RN, be financially independent, and meet my uber yummy caucasian australian lover! amen! haha! i love blondes and blue eyes! i've been to australia 2 months ago and i noticed that most (not all of course) of 20s-30s caucasians look like the models in GQ magazines! this australian experience of mine is my driving force to be an AU RN! haha!

a question about the AHPRA and ANMC websites...

do we really have to focus ONLY on the AHPRA website and ignore ANMC website?

when i went to AU 2 months ago for a vacation, i visited the AHPRA office in Sydney. i consulted an old female nurse their on how a filipino or overseas nurse can be an AU RN. as she explained to me the details, she told me that AHPRA is only for registration purposes, and that ANMC is the one tasked to assess credentials like volunteer nurse, zero experience, 10 year pre-college education, among others.

the bottomline is, which is which?

topic:

o bp (tasks, duties, expectations during bp)
o job hunting after bp
o depression during bp


below is a post originally made by haoyin....


hello guys...

before anything else, i have a confession to make... i tried injecting a little bit of humor in this forum before to make it a bit lively in the person of "lithotomy." some people took offense of it though which i and some other people felt was totally funny.

anyway, i'm posting again to share some information about the things that transpired during my bridging program here in la trobe, bendigo. first off, our class includes 10 filipinos, 10 indians, 2 chinese, 1 malaysian, 1 kenyan, 1 japanese, and 1 aussie (returning to practice). i finished the course in 10 weeks, which was chronologically comprised of 2 weeks theory class in the uni, 1 week non-acute clinical placement in aged care, 2 weeks theory class in the uni, and 5 weeks acute clinical placement. in the uni, you will have 2 return demonstration exams and 1 written exam, which i found to be fairly easy. no need to panic as everything will be taught prior to the exams.

clinical practice wise, it would definitely be advantageous for you if you have experience working in the hospital setting. then again, if you don't have experience, as long as you pick up things quick and you do ask questions rather than pretend to know what you're doing, then you'll be fine. just an overview of what to expect...
1. plenty of attending to activities of daily living i.e., showering, cleaning of faeces, feeding, etc
2. vital signs monitoring
3. administration of medications (oral, subcut, im, iv infusions, iv push)
4. clinical procedures (iv bung removal, idc insertion/removal, epidural catheter removal, ecg, bladder scans, venipuncture, setting up i.v. lines/infusion pumps, wound dressings, etc.)
5. documentations (transfer, discharge, admission, progress notes, clinical nursing pathways, etc.)
6. hand overs to next shift of nurses (via recorder/dictaphone or live)
7. use of lifting machines as it's not allowed to manually lift patients here

what i can say is that... even without experience, you will still be fine to get through the course especially if you're enthusiastic and keen to learn. that said however, it might prove to be hard for job to come by if you don't have at least 2 years experience in an acute facility. take note that there are also plenty of local nurse graduates who did graduate nurse programs that does not require sponsorship for working visa applying for jobs. so definitely, your experience is a plus-plus factor.

right now, i'm waiting for my registration with ahpra and i have the vaguest idea how long it will take. i am starting to apply for jobs online, which is a bit difficult. most institutions would require that i already have my registration while some require a more specific qualification/experience. and there are some that require experience carried out in a country with similar nursing regulations to australia, like usa, canada, uk, ireland and new zealand and some simply don’t do sponsorships. i am not saying this to instill fear in anyone who would be coming here but i am just laying down facts. nonetheless, i am pretty sure that you can still find a job as long as you try hard enough.

the thing to consider is time. when will you be coming over to finish your bridging course? i'm sure everyone knows that nursing isn't as lucrative as a profession nowadays as compared to before. we all have to contend with various things aside from the amount of expenses we have to shell out. so we are really running against time.

anyway, if i am not mistaken, there will be around 18 or maybe more filipinos coming over for the next january intake of la trobe. i can vouch for la trobe university for those of you who have yet to decide where they will do their bridging course.

this may just be a personal thing, but the thing i found to be most difficult here is the emotional distress of being far away from home, far from your family and friends... physical and mental exhaustion from the clinical placements is nothing after a night's rest, but the depression is just really something so overwhelmingly difficult for me to overcome.

well, that's just about it. see you guys soon and wish me luck. hopefully i will be able to get over this state of uncertainty. soon.

Did you have your beergoggles on? Australian men in general do not treat their women well.....hence when they get in their 40's and 50's they look towards the Phillipines because no australian women will be their servant...be real careful with this.
Austraian residency cannot beworth living with an australian old crinkly!

@ceridwyn

hi! i'm not a woman, so does that apply to me? lol

spose not! figures

TOPIC:

o Australian Immigration and Visas ( basic information )
o ANMC vs. AHPRA



As a registred nurse, you can stay/live/work in Australia under the following situations/visas:

1) As a tourist
2) As a student, or as a BP enrollee (to later be registered as nurse in Aus.)
3) As a sponsored employee via 457 (working) visa
4) As a PR/permanent resident via Skilled Migration scheme
5) As a PR via ENS/employer nomination scheme
6) As a PR via RSMS/regional sponsored migration scheme

For details of various visas, please check www.immi.gov.au ..

Australia wanted that all nurses who want to apply for migration are qualified/skilled, meaning they do not want to accept retarded nurses, for obvious reasons. So, if you want to apply for migration/PR, you need to pass through the ANMC which will disapprove/approve you by releasing a "clearance/assessment" that you are qualified/skilled.
ANMC does not issue nursing licenses..

AHPRA/NMBA is responsible for registration and regulation of nurses.. They do not care about your migration..


For nos. 1 - 3, you are NOT REQUIRED to pass through the office of ANMC.. BUT if you want, yes you can go through the ANMC and apply for "assessment", then after receiving your assessment, you present it together with other documents to AHPRA as you apply for registration.. In effect, you choose to deal with 2 govt. agencies..


For nos. 4 - 6, you MUST pass throught the office of ANMC because you will need the "clearance/assessment" as an attachment to your application for permanent residency..


Note:

Situation no. 1
- Example Mr. Haoyin will apply for permanent residency, he will pass through ANMC, but the process is cheaper, faster and easier because he already has an Australian RN license.. He does not have to worry because his "clearance/assessment" will definitely be released mainly because he is already an Aus. RN..

Situation no. 2
- Ms. Xyz who does not have an Aus. RN license, would apply for permanent residency, he will pass through the ANMC, but the process is more expensive, longer, and tedious (because you will have to submit many many many school documents).. After receiving ANMC clearance/assessment, and later if she is granted permanent residency, then she will arrive in Australia, well, she cannot yet work as a RN because she does not have Aus. RN license, she must apply at AHPRA and undergo BP..



Good luck..

well, thatz good news for straight men like me..

@glioblastoma You keep saying that you want to marry an Aussie... but then again, gay marriages isn't really allowed here you know. hehe...

hey of course i know that! i just use the word "marry" because it sounds more romantic! and i'm a gUy! a homo one haha! aussie lover, take me anyway you want to! wahahaha!

this is so not related to nursing at all! the moderators might kill me! but i'd be glad to, 'cause it'll end my misery! haha!