Published Sep 2, 2010
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Wow! 2 pages already for the new thread...Cioman you have plenty of time on your hands. hehe... Nice compilation and segregation of infos... Cheers mate!
Cioman you have plenty of time on your hands. hehe... Nice compilation and segregation of infos... Cheers mate!
well, it only means one thing ,,,, no sponsorship yet:eek:.. nyaahahahahahaha:D..... omg! hope to find one soon...
wow ciaoman, ceridwyn, javRN, your achievements really inspire me!
what are the schools/hospitals in Victoria that don't require paid experience or accept volunteer experience?
can i work during the BP? if yes, what kind of job? dishwasher? waiter? anything! i'm that desperate!
i just attained the required grade in IELTS set by the AU Nursing Council. next week i'll start reviewing the various PDF documents i've gathered in AHPRA and ANMC website. and hopefully, at the end of the week, i'm done with the requirements
another question, since majority of readers in this thread are filipinos, how do AHPRA and ANMC view the 10 year pre-college education in the Philippines? (6 years in elementary, 4 years in high school)? i've read in a website that since the philippines only have 10 year pre-college education, and that it is not par with the 12 year pre-college education in australia, overseas filipino RNs are required to complete a 2 year course and NOT THE BP to be able augment their 10 year pre-college education to 12 years. please validate this enquiry.
i'm scared that AHPRA/ANMC might not approve me for the BP!
i'm scared that i might not pass the BP
i'm scared more after the BP. during the job hunting, what if i can't get a job? maybe i'll just marry the stranger australian i've met through an online interracial dating website! haha! even scarier!
i only have 4 months volunteer experience. do you think i can EASILY get a job at a nursing home? i love geriatrics!
if after Australia, and i still don't have a nursing job, maybe i'll just explode!
Glioblastoma, why did you enter the nursing field?
maybe i'm jobless because the only thing in my mind is to be in an interracial relationship! heeheeheehee
o ANMC, Part-Time Work during BP,
o 12-year Education, "Second Courser" Nurses,
o Comments on effects of new AHPRA rules
o Job Hunting Situation
- ryan09, chabeli, javRN had "achieve" already, not me.. ceridwyn has long long been successful..
- schools that dont require experience??? ask DREDNAG, HAOYIN, RYAN09,.. me, dont know which is which..
- Work during BP? it depends, read my post on PAGE 01, "VISA"... if you are allowed to work, then yes, dishwasher, dancer, lover,.. but chances are you can find work as "caregiver" which they call as AIN, PCA, which will earn you about $10-$12 per hour..
- ANMC..... please focus on AHPRA, do not waste your time on ANMC... ANMC is only very useful if you are searching/checking for the list of accredited BP providers and if you are applying directly as a Skilled Migrant.. ANMC will also be involved if later, after your 457 visa, then you would convert to permanent residency.. But as far purely nursing registration is concerned, dont bother yourself about ANMC,, focus on AHPRA...
- 12 year Education, other new AHPRA rules.... generally speaking, here's the situation as of the time im writing this === there are new rules like that 12 year education which most of us (or all of us) do not know on its effects on a Filipino nurse's application, precisely becoz these are new rules.. we do not have 1st hand experience yet on how AHPRA deals with a new Filipino application.. All we can do for now is wait for the result of the applications of some of the forumers here, example, i think shyner07 had applied under the new AHPRA.. We would not know the answer until she receives the result of her application..
SECOND COURSER NURSE... same thing with applicant who is a second courser, prior AHPRA, all second courser were approved.. but with AHPRA, we will just have to wait and see for any actual result of approval or disapproval..
The thing is we do not have any precedent examples yet of how AHPRA approves applications and interpret its rules because everything is new and have just recently been implemented.
- Scared of BP, pass BP?? .... read my post on PAGE O1, "BP"..
- JOB HUNTING... Haoyin posted a comment on this, somewhere in PAGE 643 - 647 in the Part 1 of this thread (this thread is Part 2)
- your 4 mos. volunteer experience, finding a nursing home job?.. i cannot give a straightforward answer.. please read Haoyin's comment as mentioned above and you will have a feel of the current job situation.. There is just one thing that I can definitely tell you, the job hunting situation today is different than 1-2 years ago.. as a good example, the New Zealand is temporarily not accepting overseas nurses, imagine that, which means there are already a lot of nurses within NZ at this point of time..
- so you said you love geriatrics... well, that explains the interracial relationship website... lots of geriatrics in those site i guess... hey, atik lang, im just kidding okey.. peace.. by the way, whats the website? i wanna be a member.. hehehehe....
Seriously, good luck to you.. and dont forget to pray and help others in your own simple way..
thank you cioman! i just want to clarify things, during the BP, "is there a caregiver work part" that will make BP students earn money?
out of topic: hey! how did you know there are lots of geriatrics in interracial dating websites? haha! i'm not aiming for a geriatric lover, but i'm into may-december affair (sounds the same? haha!) i can't recommend you anything on dating websites if you're straight! lol
Wow! This thread is 2 pages already. I wasn't able to check this thread yesterday. Thank you so much cioman and all the contributors! You made it more simple to follow. Not that confusing to a newbie like me. Kudos!
I should begin with IELTS i guess.
the thing about the horrific process of a filipino nurse wanting to be an AU RN...
i need to sell my mother (breadwinner) to the nearest pawnshop to be able to pay all the fees!
if i fail BP, or pass BP but don't get a job, i will die of extreme low self-esteem and melt to hell! i won't be able to redeem myself anymore! please kill me right now!
to all filipino AU RNs who have undergone the BP, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR DETAILED EXPERIENCES ON THE TIME PERIOD RIGHT AFTER GRADUATING BP UNTIL YOU LANDED A JOB ... especially universities, hospitals and nursing homes that accept nurses with ZERO EXPERIENCE!
hospitals that conduct BP will 100% DON'T HIRE their BP students? huhuhuh
in BP, during the clinical part in a hospital, will the hospital pay us for our nursing duties their?
is it easier to find work in aged care than in a hospital? what about the salary difference? i really don't care just as long as they pay me enough so i can afford a room and instant noodles (or maybe i'll just turn stray birds into fried chicken haha!)
what if after BP graduation, i still can't find a job in a hospital or nursing home, what is the easiest way to kill myself?
i need an australian lover to cure my job insecurities! haha!
sorry, i'm a very extreme pessimist! waah! Lady GaGa help me! but please i need answers! i'm not scaring or being dramatic (although i really sound like one), i just put into words my fears, please don't get me wrong
i can't wait to be an AU RN so i'll be able to watch live concerts of Darren Hayes, Sam Sparro and other international artists (because they seldom go to the Philippines, and Araneta Coliseum has a very horrible sound system haha!)
i can't wait to be an AU RN because i love to be in a multiracial country like AU! (i know because i've been to AU 2 months ago, )
PANIC ATTACK ROUND 2! Diazepam 10000000mg STAT! *dead*
I guess glioblastoma is funnier than Lithotomy... And she is a real persona... LOLS.
@glioblastoma you are not paid during your placement here while doing the BP. It's the same as having clinical duties there in the Philippines when you were still studying, except that you are expected to perform better as you are already a registered nurse in the Philippines. Meaning, they expect that you are already a qualified nurse and you are only here trying to get accustomed to the Australian health system before you actually get your registration.
And yes you can try looking for part time work during the weekends like waiter, dishwasher, etc etc... And when you're done with your BP and while waiting for your registration, you can also work part time as long as your student visa hasn't expired.
Also, try not to sound so desperate like having to result into marriage for the sake of your career. Although, it's really amusing, it's a bit degrading to Filipinos especially that this is an international forum.
Regarding work, yes I believe getting into an aged care facility is easier than getting into a hospital especially if you don't have much experience. I am not saying that it's not possible, I'm just saying it's harder.
If you constantly think that you will fail the BP and fail everything... then you are simply attracting negative force on yourself. Try to be more positive and think that you can make it. I can sense that you lack confidence in yourself, and definitely people will sense that as well. Probably, in the future, your preceptor might think that you are really not qualified or competent enough to practice here in Australia.
i am really desperate! haha! maybe i should change my username "glioblastoma" to "desperate" or "pinoyRN4AUlover" hahahaha!
hi! i'm sorry i didn't mean to degrade my fellow Filipinos ( i hope i didn't offend you), it's just that...
1. my #1 dream is to marry a caucasian australian
2. my #2 dream: be an AU RN and earn lots of money! haha! (do AU RN's monthly salaries, when converted, are like 200,000 pesos?)
3. maybe i should switch #1 and #2 haha!
4. all the negativity in my messages only pertains to me (although i don't find it negative (denial?), well just a bit haha!)
i think i am theoretically and clinically competent as i've passed nle, nclex and ielts. and i've honed my clinical knowledge, skills and attitude during the 4 months that i've volunteered in a nearby tertiary hospital. however, i am very transparent. i can't hide my low self-esteem and my lack of confidence. maybe you are right, i am not competent at all, i just thought i was! haha!
btw, who is lithotomy?
what if after BP graduation, i still can't find a job in a hospital or nursing home, WHAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO KILL MYSELF?
hi AU RNs and AU RN hopefuls! i think we should create an allnurses.com-related blog. The blog should contain the step-by-step; links on website and PDFs; fees; misc FAQs on job hunting, the immortal zero experience issue, which state, where to stay during BP, among others. I'm suggesting this to save every newbie the trouble of scanning through all the pages of this forum. The gist of everything from Philippines to BP to job hunting to having a stable job should be the content of the blog. But if it's not allowed, nevermind! haha!
*sigh* i just can't wait to be an AU RN, be financially independent, and meet my uber yummy caucasian australian lover! amen! haha! i love blondes and blue eyes! i've been to australia 2 months ago and i noticed that most (not all of course) of 20s-30s caucasians look like the models in GQ magazines! this australian experience of mine is my driving force to be an AU RN! haha!
a question about the AHPRA and ANMC websites...
do we really have to focus ONLY on the AHPRA website and ignore ANMC website?
when i went to AU 2 months ago for a vacation, i visited the AHPRA office in Sydney. i consulted an old female nurse their on how a filipino or overseas nurse can be an AU RN. as she explained to me the details, she told me that AHPRA is only for registration purposes, and that ANMC is the one tasked to assess credentials like volunteer nurse, zero experience, 10 year pre-college education, among others.
the bottomline is, which is which?
o bp (tasks, duties, expectations during bp)
o job hunting after bp
o depression during bp
below is a post originally made by haoyin....
before anything else, i have a confession to make... i tried injecting a little bit of humor in this forum before to make it a bit lively in the person of "lithotomy." some people took offense of it though which i and some other people felt was totally funny.
anyway, i'm posting again to share some information about the things that transpired during my bridging program here in la trobe, bendigo. first off, our class includes 10 filipinos, 10 indians, 2 chinese, 1 malaysian, 1 kenyan, 1 japanese, and 1 aussie (returning to practice). i finished the course in 10 weeks, which was chronologically comprised of 2 weeks theory class in the uni, 1 week non-acute clinical placement in aged care, 2 weeks theory class in the uni, and 5 weeks acute clinical placement. in the uni, you will have 2 return demonstration exams and 1 written exam, which i found to be fairly easy. no need to panic as everything will be taught prior to the exams.
clinical practice wise, it would definitely be advantageous for you if you have experience working in the hospital setting. then again, if you don't have experience, as long as you pick up things quick and you do ask questions rather than pretend to know what you're doing, then you'll be fine. just an overview of what to expect...
1. plenty of attending to activities of daily living i.e., showering, cleaning of faeces, feeding, etc
2. vital signs monitoring
3. administration of medications (oral, subcut, im, iv infusions, iv push)
4. clinical procedures (iv bung removal, idc insertion/removal, epidural catheter removal, ecg, bladder scans, venipuncture, setting up i.v. lines/infusion pumps, wound dressings, etc.)
5. documentations (transfer, discharge, admission, progress notes, clinical nursing pathways, etc.)
6. hand overs to next shift of nurses (via recorder/dictaphone or live)
7. use of lifting machines as it's not allowed to manually lift patients here
what i can say is that... even without experience, you will still be fine to get through the course especially if you're enthusiastic and keen to learn. that said however, it might prove to be hard for job to come by if you don't have at least 2 years experience in an acute facility. take note that there are also plenty of local nurse graduates who did graduate nurse programs that does not require sponsorship for working visa applying for jobs. so definitely, your experience is a plus-plus factor.
right now, i'm waiting for my registration with ahpra and i have the vaguest idea how long it will take. i am starting to apply for jobs online, which is a bit difficult. most institutions would require that i already have my registration while some require a more specific qualification/experience. and there are some that require experience carried out in a country with similar nursing regulations to australia, like usa, canada, uk, ireland and new zealand and some simply don't do sponsorships. i am not saying this to instill fear in anyone who would be coming here but i am just laying down facts. nonetheless, i am pretty sure that you can still find a job as long as you try hard enough.
the thing to consider is time. when will you be coming over to finish your bridging course? i'm sure everyone knows that nursing isn't as lucrative as a profession nowadays as compared to before. we all have to contend with various things aside from the amount of expenses we have to shell out. so we are really running against time.
anyway, if i am not mistaken, there will be around 18 or maybe more filipinos coming over for the next january intake of la trobe. i can vouch for la trobe university for those of you who have yet to decide where they will do their bridging course.
this may just be a personal thing, but the thing i found to be most difficult here is the emotional distress of being far away from home, far from your family and friends... physical and mental exhaustion from the clinical placements is nothing after a night's rest, but the depression is just really something so overwhelmingly difficult for me to overcome.
well, that's just about it. see you guys soon and wish me luck. hopefully i will be able to get over this state of uncertainty. soon.
hi AU RNs and AU RN hopefuls! i think we should create an allnurses.com-related blog. The blog should contain the step-by-step; links on website and PDFs; fees; misc FAQs on job hunting, the immortal zero experience issue, which state, where to stay during BP, among others. I'm suggesting this to save every newbie the trouble of scanning through all the pages of this forum. The gist of everything from Philippines to BP to job hunting to having a stable job should be the content of the blog. But if it's not allowed, nevermind! haha!*sigh* i just can't wait to be an AU RN, be financially independent, and meet my uber yummy caucasian australian lover! amen! haha! i love blondes and blue eyes! i've been to australia 2 months ago and i noticed that most (not all of course) of 20s-30s caucasians look like the models in GQ magazines! this australian experience of mine is my driving force to be an AU RN! haha!
Did you have your beergoggles on? Australian men in general do not treat their women well.....hence when they get in their 40's and 50's they look towards the Phillipines because no australian women will be their servant...be real careful with this.
Austraian residency cannot beworth living with an australian old crinkly!
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