Why do mean/crabby people become nurses??

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I work in a large busy ED so I have many co-workers, many of whom I love and some who just make me feel like my head is going to explode. There are a handful who are downright nasty people, and it just makes me wonder why a person like that would become a nurse! Does being rude and obnoxious to patients and co-workers make them feel good?? Do they go home at night and count the amount of people they brought to tears and feel good about that? I can't help feeling bad for their families, I have to wonder if they are rude to their families as well...

One particular nurse really gets under my skin not only for her rudeness, but she is so hypocritical. She can do no wrong, but she will look for any reason to pick on another nurse. She literally picks apart charts and asks a hundred million questions during report i.e. "this patient's sodium is 146! What are we going to do about this?? Did you talk to the doctor???" When she takes AM report, she will not let the night nurse go until every single order has been completed.

She once made me stay until a pt's AM fingerstick had been done regardless of the fact that there was not a single other outstanding order, and the pt was NPO so would not have gotten coverage anyway, but when she gives PM report she leaves outstanding orders to do and says "well, I'm done, I'm going home, I've been here all day, you will have to do that now" The other day one pt had repeat labs due 2 hours previously to check potassium - he had come in with a K+ of 2.4, which she had never mentioned to me during report. When I pointed out that she had not done those labs, she said "oh, well you will have to ask a PCA to do that" Eventually I got the labs done, and the lab called me with a critical result of K+ 2.5. I got really nervous, since she had never told me it was low initially, and I had to start sifting trough charts only to discover it had been low the whole time...

Then yesterday, she gave me report and says "oh, I was told this pt's urine was sent, but I see the lab has not run the tests. You will have to follow up with lab, or resend the specimen" So I tried to give her a dose her of her own treatment, and I responded that she would have to do it, since the urine tests were ordered 3 hrs ago. She got so huffy and started in on how rude I am, and do we want to take this up to management?? I said, "no, I don't see a need to involve management, this is something you should have done and it wasn't done"

Luckily, just then the tests showed up as "received" by lab in the computer, so the situation didn't escalate, but she made sure to stop by before leaving and tell me again how rude she thinks I am, and how she didn't appreciate my speaking to her that way. I have been so bothered by this, her behavior is so childish and silly, it's all about her and I even pointed out to her that she had done the exact same thing to me with the fingerstick I had not done, but she was too blind to see her own hypocracy.

Anyway, that is my vent. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest!! Do you work with similar types of people?

What I have done to these types of people in many jobs including nursing is when they go off on one of their whines and rants about not everything being done, when I ran the whole shift and did 99% of things, god forbid they have 1 bath to do or 1 abx to hang(ordered for 1945 when I leave at 1930 and have literally not stopped once the whole shift and couldn't get to it before 1900 report.... I CONFRONT THEM about messes they have left me, esp the high priority ones, and if they are doing this to bully/engage in some type of antic I let them know if they have an issue they can bring it up to the manger. Most of these people have a bigger bark than bite. and they have learned in life that the best defense is a good offense so they constantly engage in these battles .

Specializes in Pediatrics.

So true. Workplace bullying amongst nurses has become a real art. I almost prefer the in your face approach vs. the passive aggression. Hospitals invest so much money into every employee and so they are reticent to fire these people. Wish you the best. There are no easy answers to your question.

I'm confused- the above poster stated she is being disciplined for"mouthing off"to the nurses. I noted you identified yourself as a new LPN( 4 months experience as an LPN) and a CNA for 11 yrs before that. First of all- CNA, patient care technicians, medical assistants medication technicians are NOT nurses. So do not refer to them as such. That is my pet peeve.

Who did you mouth off to? other LPN's who are supposed to be precepting/orienting you. RN's? ?. I want to alert you- The RN's are your boss and that is insubordination. That is something you can fired/terminated for. You also could be terminated for mouthing off to another LPN who is supposed to be orienting you and teaching you the nursing homes policies and proceedures.

"Mouthing off" is not "taking up for yourself". It's just plain old mouthing off because you feel "I have this new LPN license and move over because I have arrived all you lucky people" JMHO- but just because you have a newly gotton LPN license after being a CNA for 11 years doesn't immediately or instantly give you the keys to the kingdom. You kind of have to earn that right. It's called being a team player, being cooperative and fitting into the group you are working with. No one owes you anything.

No one owed us old nurse(RN's and LPN's) anything either in our younger day. We had to work at it and prove ourselves. You may not like those"mean/crabby "people in nursing but you do have to learn from them. You didn't graduate from LPN school with all the wisdom of the ages. One graduates from a nursing program with the bare essentials, the basics to get them to pass a NCLEX exam- that is only basic entry level, not master chef!!.That is something you will learn every day, for many years, if you are open to it and not pouting and complaining "all these people are mean/crabby people". Maybe they are mean and crabby at you because they cannot teach you anything- you may have a know it all attitude just out of the starting gate. Which will only keep you- a entry level LPN. If you want to earn you place amongst the ranks of other LPN's(licensed nurse) and be respected as an LPN, you have to first stop the "scrapping " You are not an CNA( unlicensed assisitive personel anymore)- stop acting like one.

If it was RN's you mouthed off to- well , you may have cooked your own goose on that one. All the RN's in that facility are your bosses, your superiors. They are not your peers, buddies, chums or bff.

I'm sorry to tell you, but, every new job you have, no matter if you have 4 months or 40 years, you are going to be the newbe learner when you arrive there and have to learn a whole new set of ways of doing things and thinking. stop mouthing off.

Specializes in Emergency, Haematology/Oncology.
Yes, yes, yes, and YES! Haha. I'm glad that I'm not the only one!!!

I suspect trolling for that particular post, managed to spell compassionate correctly and use words like demean but can't construct a sentence?. The mistakes were a little bit "accidentally on purpose", and it was the first post from user. Hmmmm....... I hate poor spelling and grammar also, I was mortified the other day when I realised I made a mistake in one of my posts and I couldn't go back and fix it!. Intense dislike = loose instead of lose, makes my blood boil. A funny one to add though, my friend (who is hopeless at spelling and grammar) spelled Venus, as in the planet "venous". I told her it was very cool that she managed to medicalise a planet.

Specializes in Hospice / Ambulatory Clinic.

"Mouthing off" is not "taking up for yourself". It's just plain old mouthing off because you feel "I have this new LPN license and move over because I have arrived all you lucky people" JMHO- but just because you have a newly gotton LPN license after being a CNA for 11 years doesn't immediately or instantly give you the keys to the kingdom.

I have to snicker at this in particular as I've seen this behavior in persons who aren't even a nurse yet. I had a classmate that in the end had great difficulty passing the exit exam and nearly didn't graduate. Well this lovely belle managed to on her 2nd day of clinicals mouth off to a CNA with the words " I'm the NURSE your just a CNA." Yes as a student. Oh yeah and she was completely wrong in whatever point she was making. Can't remember the details only the reaction.

No, she is not my manager and is not *making* me do anything however she is all about herself and honestly does not give a lick about the patients so long as it doesn't effect her or her license. Knowing her, she would never do the fingerstick, and then if something happened to the patient, she would say "well the finger stick was the responsibility of the previous nurse, not my fault!" Technically, yes we do finger sticks at 7a ( I work 8-8) but she has no concept of nursing being 24/7. We pick up where the previous nurse left off. I do that for all my coworkers with the understanding that most of them make a good faith effort and it is not always possible to finish all orders by 7:59...

I you work 8-8, you report off to her at 7? Or at 8? In any event, you need to do and treat the finger stick if you are the primary nurse at 7am. If you are not, then document accordingly--you can't assume this RN is "never going to do the FBS"-- And it doesn't matter what she says, it is what you document. I get that it gets crazed first thing in the morning. However, like your meds, if it is to be done at 7, you need to do it at 7. Do as many orders as possible, but this is where the 24/7 comes in. Priority orders are those I would think that are due between 7 and 8 am. This is all depending, of course, if you report at 7 or at 8. Once you report off to the next nurse, she needs to organize her own day. And this is two entirely different things--you are responsible for timely interventions (FBS) while the patient is under your care. You are responsible for orders taken off in a timely fashion on your time (and there are "rules" about this in most facilities that is within a certain time frame), if it is an admission, or something that needs finishing up, then do as much as you can, prioritize, as it is a little overwhelming to have it be 7:59, and labs were due to be drawn at 0700......

Specializes in Corrections, tele/med surg.

This sounds so much like a co-worker of mine that I gave report to this morning (3 hours ago) my head still hurts!!

Honey, there are all kinds of nasty people in this world, and you will find them in all professions. But, for a nurse who is to sane and fully capacitated is only how hey can preform as nurse-putting hands on others to heal their lives. Oh! But the "nasty" nurse may not be taking her psych medications. Report the nasty nurse to Administration; because some of the behavior can be considered demented or acting out behavior, and no medical setting will allow that.

If these "nurses" are even close to acting out or acting demented, they may be off their medications, or they need psych evaluations. There is call a disease Picks Disease where it affects the brain and people are nasty and mean. Report them!

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.

I think the more apropos question is "Why does nursing turn individuals into mean and cranky people"?

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching.

I was reading this going "this sounds familiar?" Bingo, original post was 2012.

My answer, mean and crabby people exist in every profession. It's just harder to get away from them in a team setting.

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