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This post is dedicated to all those non-nurse's, pre-nurse's, still-in-school-but-not-yet-clinical-time nursing students, inappropriate families, non-compliant patients, and the public at large.

To all it may concern:

Do NOT tell a nurse that his/her job is easy. It is brutal physical, mental, and emotionally EXHAUSTING work. I have heard you saying that you could do it - just passing pills and then sitting down reading a magazine.

Let me tell you this.

My job is more complex than any job you have or ever will have. I am responsible for people's lives. I am on the top of my game at all times.

Your job is sitting at a desk for 8 hours with a 1 hour lunch break. I have you beat. I have a 12 hour shift with 30 minutes for lunch (if I am lucky).

Why if I am lucky? Let me tell you why - its because I have 6 highly complex cardiac (that means heart) patients that are on the verge of having a major hear attack at any given moment while I am on duty.

No, the doctor is not there telling me what to do. Most of the time, its the NURSES who provide the care and tell the doctors what to do. Nurse's are the one's who see the patient deteroiate and inplement lifesaving interventions before the doctor arrives.

To those angry, ****** off visitors:

Get your hands off your hips. Uncross your arms from your chest. Do not raise your voice to me. Do not give me angry dirty looks from the doorway.

If I have never met you before, why do you assume I know who your infirm relative is? And since I don't know, why do you get a nasty attitude with me?

There is a right way and a wrong way to ask for something. Use manners. "May I and Please" go a long way.

Keep in mind that any threat you make towards me will result in the security department escorting you out, the police will be involved and you will not be able to set foot near me ever again.

Make sure that you clean up after your visit with whomever.

To the world as a whole:

Leave me alone when I am off duty. I do not care in the least about your eczema or your runny nose. I am not going to give you any medical advise other than common sense (tissues, handwashing, make an appointment with your MD). NO, I can't and won't "score" you free narcotics from my work. No, nurse's are not sleeping around with the doctors or having sex on duty. No, male nurses are not all gay. No, we are not angels of mercy. No, nurses are not idiots or handmaidens.

Yes, nursing it a versatile profession - its not limited to hospitals. Yes, nursing is "rewarding" (but most nurses this day and age do not go into it due to altruism alone its split 50/50 with income durablity and altruism).

In summary - there is more to nursing and nurse than you will ever know.

Those who are nurses or know anything about the profession of nursing will understand some of this.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

the staff at the dental office where i took her were acting like jerks and attempted to start a fight like creepy third graders.

i bent over backwards trying to get along with this ignrorant health care staff and they were begging for me to slap their faces.

they still wanted to fight even when i was on my best behavior with them and very agreeable!!

needless to say, i was ready to take a belt and beat them black and blue.

every time i go in that medical building, i still get in the mood to go up to that dental office and tell them off. they were the ones telling lies.

in this case, i was being portrayed by them as one of those rude family members discussed in this post.

i was rightfully livid with them and wrote them a letter and told them i was ready to go up to their office and beat them to a pulp. i have never written one like this in my life.

i also reported them to the state board who adamently sided with them when they were begging for a fist fight.

i hope people do look at both sides of this issue and give credit to relatives and visitors who try to get along but just need to be oriented to your rules and your job. sometimes if you make an effort to orient them, they will be understanding.

i find your note alarming for all the threats of violence i've quoted. i don't think you get it. misconceptions are one thing, but "attempting to start a fight," "begging me to slap their faces", "ready to take a belt and beat them black and blue", "beat them to a pulp," and "begging for a fist fight" are all threats of violence. i'm somewhat doubtful that the best behavior of someone who writes like this is very agreeable. being oriented to our rules should not have to include the information that violence and threats of violence are not acceptable.

This is a public forum, not a private discussion between two people that we are eavesdropping on. We can comment on anything we want to comment on, even if it's a "vent thread". Maybe there should be a separate section for vents that's off limits to comments then. Feel free to pass on any comments you don't like or agree with.

yup, you have the right to say most anything you would like, i think those who were telling you it was less than polite to do so were trying to help you grow in your social awareness.

yup, you have the right to say most anything you would like, i think those who were telling you it was less than polite to do so were trying to help you grow in your social awareness.

When I posted the thing you quoted, I was responding to something that wasn't said to me specifically. It just seems like you can't say anything unless you're 100% in agreement with certain people here. Like someone else said, you get vilified and people automatically assume you're a med student spending time on allnurses just because you're not jumping on their bandwagon. I am socially aware, but that doesn't mean I have to agree. I try my best to explain why I have the opinions I have. I don't just say "that's stupid" or "you're wrong" and leave it that. I try to express myself as best I can. I don't really mind being questioned in my beliefs because it just gives me an opportunity to clarify myself, but when being questioning someone, the people here aren't the nicest. They automatically assume you're a med student, in administration, or not in nursing if you disagree with anything.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
when i posted the thing you quoted, i was responding to something that wasn't said to me specifically. it just seems like you can't say anything unless you're 100% in agreement with certain people here. like someone else said, you get vilified and people automatically assume you're a med student spending time on allnurses just because you're not jumping on their bandwagon. i am socially aware, but that doesn't mean i have to agree. i try my best to explain why i have the opinions i have. i don't just say "that's stupid" or "you're wrong" and leave it that. i try to express myself as best i can. i don't really mind being questioned in my beliefs because it just gives me an opportunity to clarify myself, but when being questioning someone, the people here aren't the nicest. they automatically assume you're a med student, in administration, or not in nursing if you disagree with anything.

forgive me, but i don't understand why it's not nice to ask if you're a med student, a pre-nursing or nursing student or if you're in administration.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

Saiderap - I've never been accused of lying by any office staff! If they accepted you as a same-day patient, isn't it understood that it's not for routine dental work? Usually for a visit like that they book a few weeks ahead. Did you get the name of the person who told you to bring your daughter in for a same-day exam? The discussion should have ended right then and there.

If you made that story up as a parable to school us dense nurses who don't get the concept of looking at an issue from the point of view of someone other than ourselves it's somewhat lacking.

forgive me, but i don't understand why it's not nice to ask if you're a med student, a pre-nursing or nursing student or if you're in administration.

because you were trying to disqualify any opinion i had with the assumption that i wasn't a "real nurse". i think the standard you have as a real nurse is yourself. the fact that you assumed that i was in med school shows that you cannot accept the fact that all nurses do not have to believe something just because you (or 20 other nurses) say it's so. people can make their own judgments and they can have their own values. they may change with time and experience, but i stated what i felt and what i knew in that moment. we don't have to agree. it would be boring if we did anyway.:D

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
because you were trying to disqualify any opinion i had with the assumption that i wasn't a "real nurse". i think the standard you have as a real nurse is yourself. the fact that you assumed that i was in med school shows that you cannot accept the fact that all nurses do not have to believe something just because you (or 20 other nurses) say it's so. people can make their own judgments and they can have their own values. they may change with time and experience, but i stated what i felt and what i knew in that moment. we don't have to agree. it would be boring if we did anyway.:D

whatever. those that get it, get it. those that don't, don't.

Specializes in ICU.
This is a public forum, not a private discussion between two people that we are eavesdropping on. We can comment on anything we want to comment on, even if it's a "vent thread". Maybe there should be a separate section for vents that's off limits to comments then. Feel free to pass on any comments you don't like or agree with.

No one is being asked to treat this forum as though it were a private discussion, so far as I can see. This is a community. That much, you have acknowledged. However, what you have not acknowledged, is that in every community (this one included) there are social mores. Accepting and respecting those mores is the unspoken price you pay for your participant role within a community. You cannot exert your right to violate 'custom' AND **** and moan about the response you receive. That's like shooting yourself in the foot and complaining about the bleeding.

Specializes in Cardiology, Nurse Educator and Homecare.

What he said!! I am now 65 years old; I've been a Registered Nurse since 1985. I have worked in a variety of settings from Interventional Cardiology in the late 80's and early 90's to Home Health Care. I've been a nursing instructor, and I'm currently doing staff development for a small, but very good home care agency. The one thing I have to say to all those who are thinking that Nursing is an easy buck.....It is not by any stretch of the imagination easy, nor is it for the "faint of heart". If you do not love the work, then you will not be good at it, and you will not last long. PS: you got a lunch?? WOW, good for you!!

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.

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