"Should I Report This?" Yet Another Bullying Thread

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there's another thread asking "should i report this?" it seems like there's always one of those threads going. in it, a brand new nurse relates a situation that she, in her infinite wisdom and experience, finds deplorable and ends with asking either “should i report this?” or “whom do i report this to?” the answer, i think, is “mind your own business,” but there are dozens of posts disagreeing with this. “we all have duty to report,” they proclaim self righteously. “we have to protect our patients.”

these are some of the same posters who perpetuate thread after thread on lateral violence, bullying, backstabbing and throwing one another under the bus. they know it happens because they’ve been bullied. bullying just ought not to be tolerated, it should be nipped in the bud. bullies should lose their jobs.

so bullying is a terrible thing . . . unless i’m doing it? backstabbing ought not to be tolerated . . . except, of course, if i’m backstabbing someone. we ought not to throw one another under the bus . . . but i’ll make an exception in the case that *i* want to “report someone.” women are all nasty, catty backstabbers . . . except for me, of course, and maybe my friends.

if bullying is such a concern, maybe we ought to just stop doing it. rather than wasting energy deciding how and where to report someone, perhaps we ought to just mind our own business. (unless a patient is in immediate danger, of course.) rather than throwing someone under the bus to make ourselves look better by comparison, maybe we ought to stand behind them, support them and if ignorance is an issue, educate them. rather than spending so much time and care on ruminating why the manager didn’t return our “hello” or the charge nurse didn’t jump up and say “good morning” when i graced the floor with my presence, maybe i ought to just cut her some slack. it’s possible that she has something other than me to think about, and it’s possible she wasn’t deliberately ignoring or being rude to me, she was just preoccupied. if we don’t like our preceptor, maybe we should just suck it up and deal -- after all, there are always going to be co-workers we don’t like. and if someone gives us feedback, maybe we ought to pay more attention to the message than the manner. after all, some people just can’t be tactful to save their souls, but it doesn’t make their feedback any less valuable. especially if you’re new and don’t know anything.

new nurses hasten to judge their more experienced colleagues as bullies and backstabbers, yet not all workplace violence is comes from seasoned professionals and is directed at newbies. a lot of it seems to come from those very same new nurses who protest public outrage about all the lateral violence they’re encountering. think about that the next time you go to your manager and request a new preceptor because you don’t like the one you have (or because you’re convinced she doesn’t like you. you know this, of course, because you can see it in her eyes, not because you’ve ever actually discussed it with her.) think about it the next time you rush to judgement about some experienced nurse who does something contrary to the way you learned it in school. maybe it's actually a better way to do it than what your instructor taught you. think about it the next time you self-righteously proclaim “that’s the kind of nurse i *don’t* want to be.” really? give it a few years and then get back to us. and surely you should think about it before even contemplating the question of whether or not you ought to report someone for anything that isn’t actually putting a patient into immediate danger. there's a lot to be said for minding one's own business. if one does that, one can be sure not to throw someone under the bus.

Specializes in FNP.

No, it isn't. Honestly, it just isn't. It's just thoughtless. I might go so far as to say "mean spirited." If she did it every shift for a year with the intent to traumatize you, it might be, but even then it's a stretch. Thoughtless, ill-mannered, boorish behavior is not bullying.

no, it isn't. honestly, it just isn't. it's just thoughtless. i might go so far as to say "mean spirited." if she did it every shift for a year with the intent to traumatize you, it might be, but even then it's a stretch. thoughtless, ill-mannered, boorish behavior is not bullying.

:eek: that's generous....

No, it isn't. Honestly, it just isn't. It's just thoughtless. I might go so far as to say "mean spirited." If she did it every shift for a year with the intent to traumatize you, it might be, but even then it's a stretch. Thoughtless, ill-mannered, boorish behavior is not bullying.

How long until it is bullying? Does bullying even exist? anywhere? I still have no idea what is bullying. To nerd2nurse,That's a good reason to never tell co-workers anything about your personal life. I go to work and don't say anything. The only stuff I talk about is work related. Less they know about you, the better.

No, it isn't. Honestly, it just isn't. It's just thoughtless. I might go so far as to say "mean spirited." If she did it every shift for a year with the intent to traumatize you, it might be, but even then it's a stretch. Thoughtless, ill-mannered, boorish behavior is not bullying.

It is not thoughtlessness. a lot of thought went into carrying that out.

Some of you say bullying is not real or doesn't happen...I myself have had to tolerate this mean, thoughless, vicious behavior...call her mean spirited... whatever; but the fact is, it creates a dangerous work environment for nurses and their patients. So, call it what you will - It is Dangerous!

Specializes in pcu/stepdown/telemetry.
Getting crappy assignments does not constitute bullying. Not by a long shot. Try again.

totally agree. and when they get a good assignment do they wonder if someone if favoring them?

I think complaining just for the heck of it is a problem

bullying, i think, would mean to instill fear into its victim...

with an underlying and looming threat (from the bully) to sabotage victim's work.:twocents:

the story where nurse's dad w/lung ca, was given 5 lung ca pts...

that could be bullying, in that nurse could have felt fearful, resulting in harming 1 or more of her pts...or, not being able to care for them at all.

if not bullying, it was downright vicious, and that should never be tolerated either.

leslie

Specializes in pcu/stepdown/telemetry.
bullying, i think, would mean to instill fear into its victim...

with an underlying and looming threat (from the bully) to sabotage victim's work.:twocents:

the story where nurse's dad w/lung ca, was given 5 lung ca pts...

that could be bullying, in that nurse could have felt fearful, resulting in harming 1 or more of her pts...or, not being able to care for them at all.

if not bullying, it was downright vicious, and that should never be tolerated either.

leslie

but that should be reported above that charge nurse when it happens. call the supervisor tell them it is not acceptable and go chain of command. don't take report til your assignment is changed. always remain calm. and try to keep personal issues away from those type of people

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
but that should be reported above that charge nurse when it happens. call the supervisor tell them it is not acceptable and go chain of command. don't take report til your assignment is changed. always remain calm. and try to keep personal issues away from those type of people

and then there are those (usually the ones who are screaming about being bullied) who say one should never bring one's feelings into the workplace ever. so it wouldn't matter if one's father was about to have surgery for his lung cancer . . . .

and then there are those (usually the ones who are screaming about being bullied) who say one should never bring one's feelings into the workplace ever. so it wouldn't matter if one's father was about to have surgery for his lung cancer . . . .

this type of situation would be waived from keeping feelings at home.

i think what they mean by that, is we always need to be professional towards our pts...to know our boundaries.

a parent and child would not be a part of this expectation.

if anything, we continually hear that "you can't be a nurse when it's your own."...and it's very true.

that assignment was the epitomy of cruel.

leslie

totally agree. and when they get a good assignment do they wonder if someone if favoring them?

I think complaining just for the heck of it is a problem

Yes, I think I have gotten easier assignments from that same person when I was a "friend" of hers. Sometimes it is all a matter of chance but not always. I would never complain to the manger about this as I prefer to not become the squeeky wheel.

Specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

I'm all for giving people what they like or are good at. I've worked with nurses who are in recovery and they are awesome with a pt in with addiction or suicide attempt due to addiction. I don't mind GI bleeders -- I've got a strong stomach, and as long as it's not hitting the ceiling, it's just stinkier than normal poop.

My dad was okay, but when the charge nurse said she was going to right us up for refusing an assignment if we changed our pts around, I thought that was pretty over the top. I mean, I've taken the GI bleeder when we had a pregnant nurse working so she didn't hurl, and the sky didn't fall in. That charge was mean and vicious to just about everyone, and she drove off a lot of new nurses, but would then complain that no one wanted a job -- she'd give the 8 month pregnant nurses the heaviest patients, the smallest nurses the most intimidating DTers, it was like she wanted someone to get hurt or hurt the patient.

Karma finally got her, she was mean to a patient and didn't realize the family member was in the bathroom and heard her mocking the poor demented soul, and their cousin happened to be related to a bigwig at the hospital. She couldn't talk her way out of that one by saying people were sensitive and thin skinned. And down the road she went, to spread her joy elsewhere.

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