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This is a discussion on Maybe I Shouldn't Have Asked This... in Nurse Colleague / Patient Relations, part of General Nursing ... So right now I work as a CNA at an Assisted Living Facility and I just applied to a local community...by NS1485 May 31, '12So right now I work as a CNA at an Assisted Living Facility and I just applied to a local community college for their adn program. It's not guaranteed I will get in. If I don't, I might apply to the LPN program that is closer to me. My facility does not employ RN's just LPN's. I came across a coworker who's a LPN and asked her if I could ask her a question. I asked what is the difference in pay between a CNA and a LPN. I just wanted to know what the starting rate is for a LPN at our facility and if it was worth getting the degree for. I make 9/hr and if she said like 11 then I'm not sure I would want to take that extra step when what I really want is to be a RN anyways. I guess she took it as me trying to find out how much she makes and told me she couldn't talk about it and that she had to protect herself. I apologized and let her know I wasn't trying to find out how much she makes, I was just trying to find out a general rate for LPNs and or the starting LPN rate for our facility. She again told me she couldn't talk about it and she could report me if she wanted, but she said she wouldn't do that cause she's cool...whatever that means. Anyways, was I way out of line for asking this question?? I know people are sensitive when it comes to talking about how much they make, but I wasn't asking for her specific pay. Now I feel awkward around her. :uhoh21:
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- May 31, '12 by kidsMany if not most facilities have a policy that bars employees from discussing their wages with other employees.
In a round about way you asked her what she makes (or made as a new hired) it's not something she could discuss "in general" as her only knowledge is likely personal. And really. it is rude to ask anyone how much money they make. This is a question that you should ask of the facility HR department, they may be willing to give you an approximate salary range for the position. Something you'll want to keep in mind is that any number they disclose to you is not guarantee that they would pay you that amount.
I'd take let the LPN know that you realize you put her in an uncomfortable position with your question and apologize.
- May 31, '12 by TheCommuterMany nurses, including me, do not want to discuss our earnings with ancillary staff members because of the fallout that sometimes occurs when the less-mature aides discover this information.
I worked as an LPN/LVN at a facility in Texas back in 2006 where the CNAs were earning $9 per hour and the LVNs earned $18 hourly. Although $18 is definitely not a lot of money by any stretch of the imagination, it was double what the aides had been earning. Therefore, the aides thought that $18 hourly was 'big bucks.'
Once they found out how much the LVNs were earning, some of the CNAs became resentful and passive-aggressive. Others became aggressive and blatantly stated that the nurses were overpaid and did too much 'sitting.'
So, to keep the peace, I prefer to avoid salary discussions with certain coworkers. After all, some people do not think we are worth what we earn. However, I think we're all worth a whole lot more.
- May 31, '12 by not.done.yetFor future reference, most sites where you can post your resume also have salary search options based on your local area. Monster.com, etc.
- May 31, '12 by classicdameyou are asking the wrong person. She may get paid less than others or more than others. Ask HR. They can quote a base rate (which is what you would get right out of school). If you can afford it, go straight for RN and not waste time or money getting that license.
- May 31, '12 by Been there,done thatYes, employers don't want the peons talking about wages.
Too many problems can come up when we talk amongst ourselves;0.
You didn't know, but now you do. It sounds like she over-reacted somewhat.
She could have just said, "sorry we are not supposed to discuss wages "and direct you to Human Resources for the answer.
- May 31, '12 by SuesquatchRNShe shut up after you told her that, in effect, her job wasn't worth having so you were going straight to RN. You hurt her feelings.
- May 31, '12 by netglowI agree with Sue. Nobody cares about facility policy, BUT she probably makes 50 cents more than you, and that's why it's just not something she wants to talk about.
Anyhoo, you should search and find a range for your area. And no it's not worth it to do the LPN, just focus on the RN for now, if that is what you are going to do anyway. The way I see it it makes no sense to go into nursing anymore, period. But if you are going to do it focus your money on a straight line to it, don't waste money on sidelines that will count for nothing once your are there.
- May 31, '12 by ~*Stargazer*~What BTDT said. It's not just in health care. Many non-healthcare settings have the same policy, for the same reason.
- May 31, '12 by NS1485Thanks all for the advice/comments!! I now know that I should've asked HR for that info to avoid putting her in an uncomfortable position. Lesson learned. Thanks again!