Interns takes credit for my idea!! so unfair sometimess - page 2
and at the same time I feel great to have saved the patient Lots of time there are emergency situations at night and they have new interns covering who basically because they're new have a lot to... Read More
Oct 4, '12Quote from GuttercatThis ...I think we often fail to recognize that most physicians really do care what the nurses think of them not only as people, but as providers. A little recognition goes a long way in promoting mutual valuation.
Oct 4, '12If you remember back to your early days on the floor, there were probably many times someone else gave you guidance. And, more than likely, your head was spinning so furiously you never recognized that someone saved your butt. This is simply the nature of people transitioning into jobs and learning from those who learned before us. Today you're the student, tomorrow you're the teacher.
When people allow their egos to get in the way and require recognition for their contributions, it usually reflects poorly upon them. You'll gain more respect and form more positive relationships if you help others without expectation of gratitude or recognition. In the end, that quality will serve you best.
Oct 4, '12A good doctor will acknowledge when your input has helped a patient. We have a few I work with who will acknowledge and thank us for our work. The intern is learning, doesn't want to admit that they needed your help and I understand where that comes from. But what he'll get out of this is a lesson that YOU taught him and I bet next time he will remember how your suggestions helped the patient.
So maybe he won't ever thank you, but you can take something out of the notion that your experience has made a difference.
Oct 4, '12you might not get immediate recognition, but more importantly that intern will learn to RESPECT nurses in their future practices... so thank you!!!!...
Oct 4, '12When I was a younger nurse it used to bother me a bit, but nowadays I know they know, and I know the attending knows, and we all just know. You know?
The fact that he took your advice shows that he has some respect for your experience and your opinions. Besides, i haven't met an intern yet who would ever say, "The nurse told me to do xyz and so I did it."
Oct 4, '12If I had a dime for every time this has happened to me, I could buy something off the $ menu at McDonalds. Performance evaluations are a good time to stand your ground & get the acknowledgement for your contributions. I learned the hard way that people are not shy about taking credit for your hard work or your ideas.
Oct 4, '12You should be happy you're knowledgeable.
And you didn't have to spend an arm and leg for a medical degree.=)
Oct 4, '12"There no end to the good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit"
Oct 4, '12Quote from GrnTeaTHAT is all it takes to stop the AC sticks?Got a packet of gold notarial seals-- you know, the big round gold foil ones with about a hundred points around the edge, cheapcheap at the stationery store. ...Soon we had no more antecubital IVs in kids,
Quote from GuttercatIs it "Nursing Against the Odds" that talks about the games played to get physicians to do what they need to do? Nurses manipulating physicians to do the right thing? Playing the game where we lead them to what the patient needs but don't DARE act like it's our idea, because if it is, it's not right. We have to make them think it's their idea?Commuter and others are "right" in that it's the nature of the beast in any profession.
The healthcare "team" has many players.
I too am tired of the attitude that nurses should just be happy that the patient gets better, even if the physicians get all the glory.
If it's sooooo unimportant who gets credit, then why isn't the resident making sure the attending knows who should REALLY get the credit? After all, shouldn't the resident just be happy that the patient got better?
Oct 5, '12Ha. Have a kid right now that's not a candidate for a port or pic or midline. Only place to give this vital medicine is antecub. So I guess we nurses are bad guys too sometimes.
When you have been in this field for some time, you will learn that your smarts and interventions, whether acknowledged or not, helped the patient, and that's the real end game. Everything else is ultimately BS. Hopefully the newbie docs will appreciate you; but you can tell the inexperienced or new ones on student doctors network. They can trash nurses--until they realize it's a nurse that had some insight and caught something that helped or saved some patients. They may or may not acknowledge it though, but you and God know, and many times the patients somehow know.
There can be a boatload of egotistical junk in medicine, but it doesn't stop with them. I have seen nurses do exactly what you described. Just keep doing what's in the best interest of the patient, go home, go to bed, and know that b/c of your insight, hardwork, and care, you made a difference. Take the sleep of the just. Don't underestimate it's value! Often after busting your butt, you'll find that is one great reward--just being able to put your head to the pillow knowing you did your very best.
Oct 5, '12Another thing to consider- how did you learn what you are calling "your ideas?" From reading best practice literature, from working with more experienced doctors and nurses, from having seen lots of different patients throughout your career... regardless, it all somehow came, whether directly or indirectly, from other people.
Oct 5, '12This is me cussing up a storm: !!!!!
Recent spat of new, NEW residents at my large teaching hospital. Pretty sure that they got the lekshur on "respecting the intradisciplinary team" or whatever the PC term is for "that lecture we got one day where we heard that story about how that one time listening to the nurse saved a life/my job/me from getting sued."
SO ben' gittin' lots of the ol' "So what what do you suggest, nurse?" smirk smirk. Or, my least favorite, the earnest look + "what do you think?"
"Oh, no, I couldn't do that! Let's do ABC" instead.