Harassment? - page 2

by Angie O'Plasty, RN 2,968 Views | 38 Comments

Once a week, we've been asked to wear white. It's supposed to be voluntary. It's supposed to be a choice. However. I know that one overzealous person has called people at home to "remind" them to wear white. I also know... Read More


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    Angie said it is voluntary. No one should be calling people at home to remind them to do something voluntary.

    If the employer wants to make it mandatory, then do it. Otherwise, back off.

    We had a "casual Friday" where the nurses and aides on LTC wore jeans. On Acute, I just couldn't do that. Work in jeans. So I didn't. Casual Friday was not mandatory. Nor should it be.

    I agree that there are many many more important things to focus on besides wearing white.

    steph
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    white? ugh.. why white? i think you suggest pink ... i hate wearing white .. but i do think natkat is right.. do it and forget it... ya can't fight city hall...
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    But it is "volumtary". Arggghhh . . .. . .


    steph
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    Quote from Natkat
    Just wear the white on the day they ask you to wear it. It's not worth fighting over.
    I agree. Life is too short to be sweating the small stuff. I am watching a friend battle cancer, and when you put things in perspective, what to wear is just not that big a deal.
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    I have one red top, and when I wear that, I wear white pants (and I wear white bicycle shorts under them!). Otherwise all my pants are navy. I hate wearing white, but I do like that top. If you don't want to wear white, don't do it. But what about something like that? Do you maybe have one cute top that would look okay with white pants, and you could meet them half way? But of course, only if you want to do that. It might get them off your back.

    Do you still have the memo or whatever where they told you about "white day"? If it says voluntary, then I agree with the poster who said it's like casual Friday. If someone wears a suit on casual Friday at an office, that's their business. I doubt anyone would be calling them at home and reminding them to wear jeans. I would tell the caller to get over it - ain't gonna happen! And maybe while she's out buying white scrubs for her coworkers, she could pick up a life for herself.
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    Quote from MLOS
    JMHO ...

    I'm not a specialist in employment law. However, the problem probably lies in "we've been asked to wear white." When an employer "asks" an employee to do something, they're not really "asking" and there isn't really "choice." If it has been decided that staff are to wear white once a week (a particular day of the week?) then that is what staff are required to do or they face the possibility of consequences ranging from verbal correction to formal, written discipline -- depending on your facility's policy.

    When this requirement was communicated, verbally in a staff meeting, in writing via memo ... whatever ... I can picture that "we're asking that you wear white on x day of the week" or similar wording was used. IMO, this was simply politeness of speech -- it did not imply that wearing white was optional.

    Of course, I may be way off base here ...
    Nope, this was an employee "team building" initiative, generated by a coworker. Nothing hardwired into hospital policy except choice.
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    Quote from CRNI-ICU20
    Hi Angio!
    Is this a hospital? Are these people nursing supervisors, or are they co-workers, or administration? What is the "motive" behind the reminder?
    I don't think this would qualify as harrassment, but it is definitely annoying and petty!
    If someone called me at home MORE THAN ONCE to remind me what to wear to work the next day, I would politely tell them:
    "It's wonderful that you take your job so seriously that you must remind each and every one of the ADULTS on your list what to wear to work tomorrow. However, I have been dressing myself since age 4, and so far, I haven't walked out of my house naked!" Then hang up.
    What is the purpose behind the "let's all wear white to work day?" thing?
    Personally, I think that hospitals/medical places that do this sort of thing are just silly. What a person wears to work has NO BEARING on their skills or capabilities.....I can code a person in green just as well as white....so it all boils down to"image"......
    I don't know why administration and management focus on this kind of drivel, when the REAL issues of nursing get ignored, like staffing retention, adequate nursing staff, excellence in nursing care, and promotion of good collaboration between doctors and nurses. I would hope that among the idiocy, there might be one in the group that could wake up from their "meeting coma" and take a hard look at that.
    This sort of thing goes round and round the same stupid wheel....and what it looks like to people on the outside looking in is that there are some who don't have enough to do with their time as a manager or administrator, so they meddle in minutia for the majority of their time!
    They remind me of Chicken Little....running around in a flurry yelling" The Sky IS FALLING!!" all while the real world is functioning just fine without them...
    This also reminds me of the movie "Office Space".....in the part where the character played by Jennifer Aniston shows up to work in her uniform, and her manager confronts her for "not wearing enough flair"....(these were silly little buttons that people were supposed to pin on themselves to convey messages to the eating public, she was a waitress.)
    I guess your self-appointed fashion police/person is just reminding people to wear their "flair"....ugh. crni
    A coworker is the initiator.
    Motive is ironically, team-building.
    The people who were called at home did wear white the next day, then complained to me about feeling coerced into doing so.

    And yes, it does remind me of Office Space. If it was Chotchky's I would quit, but this is my profession and my chosen career and so far, the good has outweighed the idiocy.
    Last edit by Angie O'Plasty, RN on Aug 15, '07
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    Well in that case someone should point out to this coworker that as team-building goes it is not working and just getting everyone's back up! By definition teambuilding should bring everyone together not blast them apart!
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    Quote from Natkat
    Just wear the white on the day they ask you to wear it. It's not worth fighting over.
    I didn't think I was fighting over it; I was under the impression that I had a choice.
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    Quote from Daytonite
    Was this a manager or someone in a management/supervision position? I'd take them up on the offer to buy the uniforms for me! If they're going to pay, then I'll wear what they want.

    The VA hospital I worked for provided our uniforms as well as the laundry service for them. Suggest that.
    It was the coworker who started this initiative, offering in all seriousness to a colleague who does not want to wear white and had heretofore politely refused on the grounds that she didn't have a white uniform even if she wanted to wear white.

    The key here is that the whole initiative was to be a team-building initiative, and there are a few of us who do not believe that wearing white equates with "team player" and who have been repeatedly told that it's a choice.

    Yet when they choose to wear colored scrubs, something is always said and the implication is that they're not wearing white so therefore, are not a team player.
    Last edit by Angie O'Plasty, RN on Aug 15, '07


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