Discrimination & Whistle blowing - Would you hire this nurse again? - page 3
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I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over Google if you search it. A few... Read More
- 15Nov 7, '12 by TakeTwoAspirinIf all the Christians demanded "accommodation" to take off every Sunday (and holidays like Christmas, Easter, etc) it would be a scheduling nightmare! Everyone who goes into healthcare knows this isn't a 9-5 job and if you willfully decided to go into a 24-7 job knowing that you were going to make a fuss over working the hours that everyone knows you will need to work, then I'm sorry but I think that is your problem. The onus is on you to find a place where you do not need to be accommodated i.e. a doctor's office or something.
- 11Nov 7, '12 by DSkelton711Agree with TakeTwo: I am Christian and would love to be able to have Sundays off because that is what is in the Ten Commandments. But I knew going into nursing school that would not be possible and I would never expect that from my employer unless they closed on Sundays. You definitely need to stop looking at hospitals and subsequently suing them when they don't make your demand. Hopefully you can find something in an office, if they will accept you, as now you are a high-risk potential.
- 6Nov 7, '12 by joanna73 GuideQuote from SunshineSmileSorry, but I wouldn't have accomodated you either, religion or not. And, I probably would have told you why in the interview, just as that manager did. You have a right to be upset, however, you must also realize that health care is 24/7, including weekends. Many staff members want weekends off, which is often based on seniority. While you're entitled to observe your religion, the business of health care should not have to work around that. People are ill, and managers need flexibility in a new hire. You did yourself in by taking the matter as far as you have.Sabbath observer. I told them I could work Saturday nights and any time Sundays, but not from Friday sundown to to Saturday sunset. They wanted me to work alternate weekends, which is common, and did not want to make any acommodations. I have worked for a facility that had no problem with me working every Sundays instead of every other Sat, Sun. It's what they call in legal jargon as "reasonable acommodation."
- 17Nov 7, '12 by coupb8222Sabbath is all about taking a day of rest.
A great book to read is Sabbath by Wayne Muller. Gives perspective about the act of Sabbath, not necessarily the date it occurs.
God wants us to live at peace with others.
I would spend time in prayer about your Sabbath. It's about glorifying God and finding rest. If you can do that on Monday instead of Friday, go for it. It's about the act, and where your heart is. Strongly consider spending time praying on observing Sabbath on your days off, rather than suing a company who won't hire you because you won't work a specific day of the week. Sabbath should be in your heart, not on the day of the week.
I think your in a Catch 22 and I think your employment options are very limited. Try to work for some type of faith based clinic or something who can honor your request, as a hospital 24/7 operation will not work well for your schedule needs.
I would spend time in prayer regarding your Sabbath, rather than suing each and every company that does not extend you the job offer. You have demands that aren't with the 'times', regardless if it's based on your religion or not. And if you won a lawsuit or not.
Just because you CAN sue someone and win, does not mean that you SHOULD sue someone.
What would GOD do? I think he would work work work work work work work, and take a day for rest. You can do that. Modern day work weeks are not those of biblical times. Please reconsider and do some inner searching and prayer. You can still honor God and work Weekends.
- 10Nov 7, '12 by theantichickI was raised as a Seventh Day Adventist which is a Christian Sabbath observing religion. It is well understood in the SDA church that it is allowable to work on the Sabbath if you are in a "life saving" profession which includes law enforcement, fire department, and health care. Many people consider it another way of honoring God on the Sabbath.
I would say if the OP is Jewish, that she should confer with her Rabbi about the matter. I was under the impression that Jewish Law had a similar exception as the SDA's do.
If the OP and her Rabbi determine that she truly cannot work on the Sabbath, then she needs to try and find a job that is M-F days only - perhaps a surgery team, a doctor's office, school nursing, etc.
I am still a nursing student, but I've worked in hospital administration before and I personally believe this should fall under the "reasonableness test" for religious accommodation. I don't think a hospital unit should have to work around someone who will never work a certain day.
- 2Nov 7, '12 by monkeybugQuote from morteNot to be nitpicky, but I don't think the OP ever said they were Jewish. Jews, Muslims, and some Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.elaborated further in following posts. she/he is an observant jew, needed the sabbath off.
- 4Nov 7, '12 by bradleauHow many Sundays I have worked. My only problem came to a head when the church I was attending started giving me difficulty about my Sundays on the job. I truly consider my work with patients on a Sunday as a way of worshiping God. I worked every other Sunday. By the way, I changed churches.
- 1Nov 7, '12 by bradleauWhen I was first into nursing, I found bias in that I was married, therefore had a husband to bring home the bacon. Also there was the issue that he was in the military, and my time on the job was limited. Why should the fact that I had a husband keep me from having a job. They were hiring a new nurse that did not have another income provider. She got the extra overtime, days off, etc. with me having to take up her slack. By the way, she got terminated for narc stealing. Supposedly providing the drugs to her brother. Patients suffered in pain because of her.
- 4Nov 7, '12 by islandrootsQuote from SunshineSmileIt is sad that you have gone through this, but there is one thing that should be clear. Being Adventist and/or a sabbath keeper does not automatically exempt you from having to work on the sabbath. I am also a sabbath keeper. I have been Adventist my whole life. I have worked for Adventist managers who would not allow me to have every sabbath off. I have had an Adventist manager who did. It all depends on the person.I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over Google if you search it. A few years later, similar thing happened. I got a job at a well known hospital, worked at the place, and the manager discriminated me. Since she couldn’t make it obvious that the discrimination as the reason for terminating me, she micromanaged me and came up with a bunch of things that a new orientee might get wrong or make mistakes on to get me fired. Now, my lawyers are about to sue that hospital also.
I have been looking for a new job for the last 6 months since the fancy hospital manager let me go. My question is, is my career doomed because my name is tarnished all over the internet as a “litigious nurse,” or does it really matter? Do HR people and nurse managers reconsider offering a job to a good candidate because she once sued another facility? What they did to me was wrong. And I want justice. But do people that sue facilities end up having a hard time getting a job elsewhere because of it? It seems like double punishment to me.
You have a few options. You can work on the sabbath and donate your salary, therefore it is not work, but volunteering. You could show your managaer how great an employee you are and maybe get them to work something out with you at a later time.
You also should keep in mind that Jesus helped to take the animal out of the pit on the sabbath "lest he die".
Taking care of the sick on the sabbath is not a sin.
I am a manager and when I hire I have to tell the person that the job requires 6 days a week. We are closed on Sunday.. I have had Adventist apply, but did not hire them for the same reason you seem not to be getting hired.
I have to fill the position with someone who can do the job. One requirement is every other Saturday.
Try to find a M-F clinic, or even Diallysis where you could work Monday, Wednesy and Friday only, and maybe leave earlier on Friday.
Pray. It will work out.
- 3Nov 7, '12 by classicdame Guidewe had a nurse who was a pastor's wife. She wanted every Sunday and evey Wednesday off. The manager accommodated her for a while, but after so many people complained, she was told she had to have the same schedule requirements as everyone else. She quit. But that was her choice, just like choosing to work in a facility that is open 24/7