Discrimination & Whistle blowing - Would you hire this nurse again? - page 3

I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over... Read More

  1. Visit  bradleau profile page
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    How many Sundays I have worked. My only problem came to a head when the church I was attending started giving me difficulty about my Sundays on the job. I truly consider my work with patients on a Sunday as a way of worshiping God. I worked every other Sunday. By the way, I changed churches.
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  3. Visit  bradleau profile page
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    When I was first into nursing, I found bias in that I was married, therefore had a husband to bring home the bacon. Also there was the issue that he was in the military, and my time on the job was limited. Why should the fact that I had a husband keep me from having a job. They were hiring a new nurse that did not have another income provider. She got the extra overtime, days off, etc. with me having to take up her slack. By the way, she got terminated for narc stealing. Supposedly providing the drugs to her brother. Patients suffered in pain because of her.
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  4. Visit  islandroots profile page
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    Quote from SunshineSmile
    I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over Google if you search it. A few years later, similar thing happened. I got a job at a well known hospital, worked at the place, and the manager discriminated me. Since she couldn't make it obvious that the discrimination as the reason for terminating me, she micromanaged me and came up with a bunch of things that a new orientee might get wrong or make mistakes on to get me fired. Now, my lawyers are about to sue that hospital also.

    I have been looking for a new job for the last 6 months since the fancy hospital manager let me go. My question is, is my career doomed because my name is tarnished all over the internet as a "litigious nurse," or does it really matter? Do HR people and nurse managers reconsider offering a job to a good candidate because she once sued another facility? What they did to me was wrong. And I want justice. But do people that sue facilities end up having a hard time getting a job elsewhere because of it? It seems like double punishment to me.
    It is sad that you have gone through this, but there is one thing that should be clear. Being Adventist and/or a sabbath keeper does not automatically exempt you from having to work on the sabbath. I am also a sabbath keeper. I have been Adventist my whole life. I have worked for Adventist managers who would not allow me to have every sabbath off. I have had an Adventist manager who did. It all depends on the person.
    You have a few options. You can work on the sabbath and donate your salary, therefore it is not work, but volunteering. You could show your managaer how great an employee you are and maybe get them to work something out with you at a later time.
    You also should keep in mind that Jesus helped to take the animal out of the pit on the sabbath "lest he die".
    Taking care of the sick on the sabbath is not a sin.
    I am a manager and when I hire I have to tell the person that the job requires 6 days a week. We are closed on Sunday.. I have had Adventist apply, but did not hire them for the same reason you seem not to be getting hired.
    I have to fill the position with someone who can do the job. One requirement is every other Saturday.
    Try to find a M-F clinic, or even Diallysis where you could work Monday, Wednesy and Friday only, and maybe leave earlier on Friday.
    Pray. It will work out.
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  5. Visit  classicdame profile page
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    we had a nurse who was a pastor's wife. She wanted every Sunday and evey Wednesday off. The manager accommodated her for a while, but after so many people complained, she was told she had to have the same schedule requirements as everyone else. She quit. But that was her choice, just like choosing to work in a facility that is open 24/7
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  6. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    How did the second hospital discriminate you? I'd assume if they had heard of your prior case and worried you were a litigious nurse they just would not have hired you in the first place. If it was over working on the Sabbath seems like the issue would've come up before they had time to micromanage you and trump up reasons to fire you.

    edit: I see your issue goes something like this - you want to hang a discrimination charge on hospital #2 because you didn't inform them of your scheduling needs, and they are prohibited from asking about your religion during the hiring process.

    Then at some point your manager said "if I had known your religion I wouldn't have hired you" even though it's obvious that what she meant was "If I had known you couldn't work any Saturdays I wouldn't have hired you" - based on that you plan to sue them. I guess you could make a career out of doing that since it's based on blindsiding your employer. Not very ethical imo.
    Last edit by nursel56 on Nov 7, '12
  7. Visit  Daisy_08 profile page
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    If you are such a devout Jew or Christian (maybe your another religion, I don't mean to jump to conclusions) I'm rather surprised you would choose to be so litigious as these faiths teach against it.

    I think your being unfair to your employee's and co-workers. You need to look into a Monday to Friday job.
  8. Visit  jtmarcy12 profile page
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    The best thing you can do is to apply for PRN positions, that way you choose your schedule. If you are applying to a new company and expect them to accomodate you just because you observe the sabbath, that puts them in an awkard position. When you apply and they tell you you must work every other weekend, you already know you are unable to commit to their job requirements so don't apply, in other words you are unable to perform the duties that are asked of you. The other option is apply for jobs that are closed on weekends and work M-F. Best wishes to you.
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  9. Visit  dirtyhippiegirl profile page
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    Quote from monkeybug
    Not to be nitpicky, but I don't think the OP ever said they were Jewish. Jews, Muslims, and some Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.
    Muslims do not celebrate a traditional Sabbath day. Their "day of prayer" is on Friday.

    SDA and some Baptists (?) celebrate a Saturday Sabbath. However, if you are to take what the OP worded as literal, that she celebrates the Sabbath from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday, it's a fairly good assumption that she is Jewish.
  10. Visit  theantichick profile page
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    Dirtyhippiegirl... Just FYI the SDA's observe sundown to sundown as well.
  11. Visit  dirtyhippiegirl profile page
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    Quote from theantichick
    Dirtyhippiegirl... Just FYI the SDA's observe sundown to sundown as well.
    Weird! I just googled it and it appears that you're correct. I live in an area with a large SDA population and it was always my understanding from associating with SDA friends etc. that you could work on Friday (most spent Friday night preparing for Saturday sabbath) but definitely not on Saturday.

    Does make me wonder about the policies in regards to the SDA hospital just down the road from me. I was also under the assumption, which was brought up by someone else, that life saving occupations were exempt from the sabbath.

    Good to know 'tho!
  12. Visit  theantichick profile page
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    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    Weird! I just googled it and it appears that you're correct. I live in an area with a large SDA population and it was always my understanding from associating with SDA friends etc. that you could work on Friday (most spent Friday night preparing for Saturday sabbath) but definitely not on Saturday.

    Does make me wonder about the policies in regards to the SDA hospital just down the road from me. I was also under the assumption, which was brought up by someone else, that life saving occupations were exempt from the sabbath.

    Good to know 'tho!
    I was raised SDA, and believe me I know the sundown-to-sundown rules in exquisite detail! They really suck to most SDA teens! (I no longer practice for other reasons.)

    There are large numbers of SDA's in healthcare, and their hospital network used to be very large. Loma Linda in California is an SDA facility, for example. The SDA teachings have always been that providing health care to those who need it is not a violation of the Sabbath keeping laws. At least the way it was when I was growing up, the managers would make an effort to rotate the Sabbath shifts so not everyone had to bear the brunt, or try and schedule non-SDA's if possible, but it was more a courtesy thing than anything. Some employees would make arrangements and work a Sunday for a non-SDA co-worker if that person would work their Saturday. But it was clearly understood if you were needed, you worked, and the church leaders I knew about never even questioned it.

    Now I did my Foundations clinicals at our local SDA facility, and I'm not sure if there was a single SDA working on the floor I was on. Different world than the one I grew up in.
  13. Visit  dirtyhippiegirl profile page
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    Quote from theantichick
    Now I did my Foundations clinicals at our local SDA facility, and I'm not sure if there was a single SDA working on the floor I was on. Different world than the one I grew up in.
    My ICU clinical was in said SDA facility down the street from me. As a long time vegetarian, I thoroughly enjoyed their cafeteria selections, but...I don't know how I could have told a SDA nurse from a regular nurse. Even the daily employee prayer circles were geared towards a more general Christian mindset.

    I love learning about stuff like this.
  14. Visit  blah411 profile page
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    Hmm... I am Jewish and according to what I know the "halaha" determined that saving lives is superior to observing Sabbath.
    I have religious MD friends who work on Sabbath no problem. Bottom line, I am sure you could find a Rabbi to approve you to work
    but you chose to go to extreme and sue the Hospital. I think your future employers who might know few things about Judaism will not see this favorably.
    Besides, who discriminates against Jewish anyways, the Hospitals are packed with Jewish docs
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