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Dear Boss - page 3

Do you think that a cavelier, punitive attitude is a good thing? Do you think the constant short staffing goes un-noticed? Do you wonder why there is a mass exodus of long term, great employees? ... Read More

  1. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    But only by coming together... an individual nurse has no power. This is no different than an individual cop, teacher, firefighter, machinist, pilot, etc.

    What bestows power is the willingness to act in concert and to negotiate collectively.

    And yet, how many nurses have been supporting the systematic dismantling of labor rights and collective bargaining?

    I've several times taken jobs which sucked in many of the same regards as described forthwith. I've been asked, "Why are you doing it? Why don't you just leave?" Well, in order to keep food on the table, a person will do nigh anything and if that's all you've got, you're in no position to stand up for change since an individual can usually be easily replaced.

    Please recognize, this is not a 'nursing' issue, this is a 'labor' issue.

    nailed it. Stands up and applauds this here post..

    also, many nurses are parents.

    there's not a lot i wouldn't do to feed my kids. It might be easier to say, "oh, i'd walk"
    If one has a big stash of savings,
    other ways to support themselves,
    lives with their parents or a wealthy mate,
    lives in a town with lots of hospitals, HH agencies, LTC facilities, and clinics and hospice orgs,
    that aren't all melded into one (1) org yet, (same HR dept that just fired you...see?)
    or lives so so cheaply, they can go a few weeks or months without a paycheck,
    or lives in an area with an actual, bonafide nursing shortage,
    that person
    might have options some parent with a table full of hungry kids doesn't have.
    Last edit by somenurse on Jan 4, '13
  2. Visit  prmenrs profile page
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    "btw,
    if one wants strength,
    it's not balls they need. Those things are super tender, have to be handled just so. One punch or pinch, the owner doubles over.
    Nah, if it's strength you want, try a vagina. Now THOSE can really take a pounding
    ."

    This is a quote from Betty White's appearance on SNL.


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  3. Visit  Marisette profile page
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    Quote from Jean Marie46514
    nailed it. Stands up and applauds this here post..

    also, many nurses are parents.

    there's not a lot i wouldn't do to feed my kids. It might be easier to say, "oh, i'd walk"
    If one has a big stash of savings,
    other ways to support themselves,
    lives with their parents or a wealthy mate,
    lives in a town with lots of hospitals, HH agencies, LTC facilities, and clinics and hospice orgs,
    that aren't all melded into one (1) org yet, (same HR dept that just fired you...see?)
    or lives so so cheaply, they can go a few weeks or months without a paycheck,
    or lives in an area with an actual, bonafide nursing shortage,
    that person
    might have options some parent with a table full of hungry kids doesn't have.
    Options, the organization of health care providers into one has certainly limited the nurses options. Imagine,IF you get fired in one hospital, you have to move out of state to find another job! Remind me how this got started? I don't understand how this ever became legal. It limist Patient choices too. I worked in one health facility where a patient was accused of being violent. He verbally threatened a social worker. He was forced to leave and seek services at a goverment funded county hospital. Later, the social worker from the goverment or county hospital called trying to place the patient in another facility. I said, good luck, 95% of the facilities providing the service the patient requires, are part of the organization that just "kicked" the patient out. So yes, it's not good for nurses, but who in the world thought, that organization of health care providers, was good for patients?
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  4. Visit  dnnc52 profile page
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    That's GREAT!!!
  5. Visit  dnnc52 profile page
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    If I may add to this conversation and BTW the play title"NO BED OF ROSES" that was a sign that was hung in our classroom in Nursing school about 37yrs ago. Also since I have left nursing I am doing okay a songwriter so I would be glad to work up the music for your play. Afterall we are nurses !!! We can do it all!!!
    Okay- Years ago you could leave a hospital and then go work with another hospital down the street or in the other county. BUT now since we have all these super healthcare takeovers,all the hospitals are inte-related. Take the Carolina Healthcare System-they have sucked up every great little county hospital in the area and with that they all have to change their mission and other crap TNC like the Mother Ship in Charlotte. So you void off one then you are sunk,you will not get hired anywhere else unless you go to the Novant. So if you tick off any of these two hospitals then its slim pickings for a job,and exp,certs and great working history does not R/O hiring a younger nurse who will drink the kool-aid without question. It's very hard for nurses to remember the good old days if they were not there. I feel great that I hand a chance to work as a nurse when it was a service and not a business. So yes the entire work climate has changed. In stead of the old"Thank you for working here and working hard" It's now like "If you dont like then leave". So how are they going to expect employees to have pride and dedication when they dont serve their employees well. I dont believe there is a Nursing shortage. There is a shortage of older nurses because the profession is not age friendly,and lets face it it the vintage nurses that are likely to speak up and then are considered "OBSTRUCTIONIST" spelling?. Look folks noway are you going to give 8pts by yourself "Excellent Care". and all the phone calls to the ex-patients is not going to turn this fact around. The more the pateint sees the nurses the better the outcomes fact!. Sorry got to lenghtly!!!
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  6. Visit  Marisette profile page
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    I just wondered how the organization of hospitals or healthcare facilities became routine or normal. I feel it limits patient choice, in addition to making employment difficult for nurses. This is part of the reason a nurse can't just "GO" when working conditions are "inadequate" for her or the patient's safety. I'm curious as to goverment policy and the nature or legality of the organization of hospitals and other healthcare providers. Was there ever any opposition or legislation limiting this? I do realize it's the nature of the beast at this time. I too worked long ago, prior to this type of organization. Any chance this will come to an end?
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  7. Visit  multi10 profile page
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    dnnc52:

    "No Bed of Roses" : I love that title.
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  8. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from mindlor
    Do you think that a cavelier, punitive attitude is a good thing? Do you think the constant short staffing goes un-noticed? Do you wonder why there is a mass exodus of long term, great employees? To the CEO....do you think that crappy benefits, zero percent raises, dirty facilities and 20 year old IV pumps are going to fly?You may want to wake up. Us employee's have choices.......Every staff member you have......consider us to be on two week contracts because each of us are a two week notice away from leaving.
    lol. we are all easily replaced, here comes a new class of new grads, last years unemployed new old grads and when that fails here comes somevisa program
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  9. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from Marisette
    I just wondered how the organization of hospitals or healthcare facilities became routine or normal. I feel it limits patient choice, in addition to making employment difficult for nurses. This is part of the reason a nurse can't just "GO" when working conditions are "inadequate" for her or the patient's safety. I'm curious as to goverment policy and the nature or legality of the organization of hospitals and other healthcare providers. Was there ever any opposition or legislation limiting this? I do realize it's the nature of the beast at this time. I too worked long ago, prior to this type of organization. Any chance this will come to an end?
    not to derail the thread but if a business can by another business than what is the peoblem in a capitalist society? this is how our country works ( there are monopoly rules actually,debateable if there should be if it were to really be a free market).
  10. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from prmenrs
    "btw,
    if one wants strength,
    it's not balls they need. Those things are super tender, have to be handled just so. One punch or pinch, the owner doubles over.
    Nah, if it's strength you want, try a vagina. Now THOSE can really take a pounding
    ."

    This is a quote from Betty White's appearance on SNL.




    Yes, it is, and one well worth repeating! It is such a popular line. I often use such quotes, guess i should add in name of person who says them whenever i do.
    I have a book of quotes from older females, and i love that book, but, i do sometimes get mixed up, after having read so many, about who said which one. Thanks for clarifying that!! It IS a great line, though, isn't it? I throw it in as often as i can, everytime someone is ranting we need balls...
  11. Visit  somenurse profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    not to derail the thread but if a business can by another business than what is the peoblem in a capitalist society? this is how our country works ( there are monopoly rules actually,debateable if there should be if it were to really be a free market).

    Unfettered capitalism can and does have it's drawbacks, but, guess that'd be a major thread derail. Profit based healthcare systems also can and do have their drawbacks, too, but, that'd also be a major thread derail, too.
    I am glad there are some limits to prevent monopolies, but, i don't' even claim to be a huge fan of an unregulated "free market", though, but, again, that's probably a major thread derail, too, and a very complex one that many citizens can only barely follow or understand the points being made. But it can be a fun discussion to have, but, economics is not a well understood topic, imo.

    I don't know if it is considered an actual monopoly, or not,
    when a town's hospital,
    HH agencies, hospice agencies, clinics,
    and other nearby hospitals
    all meld into one org....not sure that'd really qualify as a true monopoly, or not,
    but, it sure can feel like one to a patient looking for healthcare or to a nurse seeking employment!!
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