"Nurses Are So Mean"

I wish the phrase "nurses eat their young" had never been coined. Thirty some years ago when I was a new grad, the phrase hadn't yet been coined. When I had problems with my co-workers, I could only look at my own behavior. I was young, fresh off the farm and totally unprepared for my new job as a nurse. Nurses Relations Article

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I wish I had a dollar for every post I've read claiming that "nurses are so mean," "nurses are nasty to each other," "nurses eat their young" or "my preceptor is picking on me for no good reason." And then if you add in all the nurses who are "fired for NO reason" or is hated by their co-workers because they're so much younger and more beautiful than everyone around them or just can't get along with their colleagues no matter what they do -- well, I'd be a rich woman. I could retire to Tahiti and lounge on the beach sipping margaritas and eating BON bons. Or whatever. You catch my drift.

I'm beginning to believe that the nurses, nursing students, new grads and CNAs who claim that everyone is being mean to them are revealing far more about their own character than they are about the people around them.

It's A Pattern

It's usually pretty much a pattern -- someone who is new to nursing, new to a specialty or new to a job posts a plaintive lament about how everyone they work with is just so MEAN. Often times, when the poster goes on to describe the situation, it's just that they had a negative interaction with one nurse -- and often just that one time. It's as if no one is allowed to have a bad day. There are no allowances made for the colleague who may be a bit brusque because they've been up all night with a cranky baby or a wandering parent with dementia or their dog just died or even -- heaven forbid -- they're weary of answering that same question over and over without any learning occurring.

People Have Bad Days

It's just one of those things. We cannot all call in sick every time we've had to stay up all night with a child or parent, put the dog to sleep or take antihistamines. We can't all not come to work every time the sewer backs up, the roof leaks or the car won't start. Some of us on any given day have worries and responsibilities outside the job. If you happen to encounter a colleague on the day she discovered her husband was cheating on her, her child crashed another car or the space heater fried a whole circuit they might just be rude to you. They probably don't mean it, possibly don't even realize they WERE rude to you. Cut them some slack. Even preceptors have really bad days when nothing goes right. If you're looking for nurses eating their young or being mean and nasty to their co-workers, you'll find them. Whether or not they actually ARE young-eaters or mean nurses.

"Coworkers Are So Mean To Me"

Another common theme is a poster complaining about how mean her new co-workers are to her. She's never done anything to deserve it, she's always been pleasant and helpful and she thinks (or someone has told her) that they're picking on her because they are just so jealous of her relative youth and beauty. I'm suggesting that if that's what you believe -- that you're perfect, but your co-workers are jealous of your youth and beauty -- you ought to perhaps look a little deeper. Much of the time, there will be another reason that you're not getting along with the people at work. Perhaps you're not being as friendly and helpful as you think. Perhaps you're not carrying your full share of the workload, or aren't learning despite asking the same questions over and over or are rude to people you perceive as "old dogs who ought to retire" or "ugly old hags."

If you're writing in to complain that "mean people follow me everywhere" and "I've had five jobs since I graduated six months ago, and my preceptors have all been nasty" or "nurses eat their young and I know that because I'm always being eaten," stop and think for a minute. If the same problem follows you everywhere you go, it may not be them. There's a good chance that it's YOU. You can change jobs as many times as you like, but everywhere you go, there you are. Since the only person you can change is YOU, stop and think about what you might be doing to contribute to your problems. A little self-assessment and introspection can only be a good thing.

"Nurses Eat Their Young"

I wish the phrase "nurses eat their young" had never been coined. Thirty some years ago when I was a new grad, the phrase hadn't yet been coined. When I had problems with my co-workers, I could only look at my own behavior. I was young, fresh off the farm and totally unprepared for my new job as a nurse. When I grew up and learned more, my co-workers became much nicer people. While I know that lateral violence does exist, I don't think it exists to the point that some people seem to think it does. Or to the degree that a regular reader of allnurses.com could believe it does. Every time you have a negative interaction with a co-worker, it's not necessarily lateral violence. It could very well be that someone is having a very, very bad day. Or week. Or it could be that rather than your co-workers being jealous of your extreme good looks, you're regularly doing something really stupid or thoughtless that irritates or annoys them. Quite possibly, the problem is you. Maybe you're not studying enough, learning enough, understanding enough or doing enough. Certainly if you're always having the same problems over and over again, everywhere you go, the problem IS you.

The only person you can "fix" is you. I really, really wish that people would at least consider the possibility that they are part of the problem before they scream that "nurses eat their young."

Specializes in M/S, Travel Nursing, Pulmonary.
those who have thought they were treated badly before.........ain't seen nothin yet !!!!!!!!!!

With all the budget cuts and staff lay-offs due to the BIG CORPORATE owners of the hospitals, we now have nurses cutting each others throats in order to keep their jobs............actually spying and writing others up to make themselves look better to the head honches........all to save their own jobs...........

how said that it has come to this................I can only blame the economy, and owners of the corps.....

We have one nurse who spends her off days scanning through various social sites (facebook, myspace and a couple others) looking for/stalking co-workers. If she finds you, she'll bookmark your page at home and check it EVERY DAY for anything she can use against you. People have said things as innocent as "I had a rough day at work, lots of admits" and it gets printed and delivered to the manager.

Thankfully, our manager see's through this sort of backstabbing behavior. She doesn't take any of it seriously.

The thing that jumps out to me about it is, the nurse who does it........is one of the worst nurses you could ever run into. I think behaviors like this and.........a general lack skill.......tend to go together for some reason.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
With all due respect, Ma'am, the economy and the corporations etc are doing us a favor. They are helping us identify who has integrity and who does not.

Sort of like a famine to sort out who the thieves are?

aloevera,

I have heard that employers - and I can imagine even co workers (why not?) would check out things you write on blogs and face book and would even use it against you. That seems to be the nature of the beast. I guess that is why as I've been advised many times *not to put personal information on these post, *not to put my real name or traceable information on here, as you don't want things to be used against you. And really not to put things, photos, or verbal language on the internet that might come back to haunt you. After all - you are sending it out to the world! Just like emails. They get forwarded, and forwarded, and forwarded again. . . and you never know who gets them.

Great point!

annmarie

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

is5512..........well I sure don't agree with you!!! integrity or not, people must feed their families......it is the corps./owners that have caused all this mess !!! and I fear it will only get worse...

NO, THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYONE A FAVOR, EXCEPT THEMSELVES !!!!

There are people in the world who disagree with me. I could even go so far as to say that there are "bad people" in the world. But to suggest that the behaviours of such people constitute an excuse for me to lie cheat steal and backbite colleagues is utter and complete hogwash. If there are Nurses who justify such reptilian conduct by saying "I'm a jerk because the corporation is mean," then I would rather die in a Wal-Mart parking lot than have them within 100-miles of my bedside.

Specializes in Critical Care, Patient Safety.
With all due respect, Ma'am, the economy and the corporations etc are doing us a favor. They are helping us identify who has integrity and who does not.

This is a nice idea in theory, but I don't really see the economy and corporations sorting out the bad apples, so to speak. I see heightened, cut throat competition to get jobs (especially among new grads), people staying in the workforce longer (including a fair number of people who SHOULD have retired or moved into different positions long ago - I kid you not that I've seen nurses who can barely walk or provide patient care due to back or knee issues), and more and more stress amongst nurses because more work is being given to less people (due to hiring freezes).

The invisible hand is not magically sorting out those lacking in integrity; just as it is not magically fixing our current economic problems.

Specializes in M/S, Travel Nursing, Pulmonary.
This is a nice idea in theory, but I don't really see the economy and corporations sorting out the bad apples, so to speak. I see heightened, cut throat competition to get jobs (especially among new grads), people staying in the workforce longer (including a fair number of people who SHOULD have retired or moved into different positions long ago - I kid you not that I've seen nurses who can barely walk or provide patient care due to back or knee issues), and more and more stress amongst nurses because more work is being given to less people (due to hiring freezes).

The invisible hand is not magically sorting out those lacking in integrity; just as it is not magically fixing our current economic problems.

I have to agree with you there. In meetings and emails to workers, admin. is always woot wooting about how the new economy "means new challenges" and "only the strongest, most dedicated workers have a place with us during these hard times". They work very hard at selling their war cry of "We will do whatever is necessary to survive these troubling times".

"Surviving these troubling times" has turned into increased workloads on nurses (and every other dept.), less supplies to work with and clown like penny pinching (sending emails complaining of workers who punch in 5 min. before their scheduled time.........just days after sending an email complaining about workers not showing up ready to work). It has not turned into cutting admin. jobs or salaries though, ironically. Guess even "Whatever is necessary to survive these troubling times" has its limits.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

i agree, erik. and i'm about as far away from michael moore in my opinions about capitalism as you can get. this wheat-chaff pain is a good thing argument is the true reptile. and those reptiles have the deep pockets for feel-good warm and fuzzy branding efforts. obviously it's not a good thing to gossip and/or backbite, but the corporations are "doing us a favor"? i guess the rats who spread the plague were doing us a favor, too. the lower population plus the fire made london a much cleaner city. cold

Specializes in med surg, geriatric, clinical, pool.

How do any of these facts have to do with "mean nurses?"

Specializes in telemetry, med-surg, home health, psych.

I, too, believe in capitalism and think M. Moore is a joke...........this country was built on free speech and capitalism....but the hospital owners are taking advantage of these hard times and causing the nursing industry to change...it is a very sad situation..........

How do any of these facts have to do with "mean nurses?"

"Mean Nurses" say it's never their fault.

So - what is the solution? Should more nurses be in Administrative positions? Executive and CFO positions? Should more nurses be politically active, and lobbying in Washington to make ourselves heard?

Has anyone written any articles about any of these thoughts and issues?

Just some ideas stewing around. . .

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