CUNY Help: BMCC & Hunter - page 2

Hi there everyone. Sorry to vent, but i'm a little bummed here today. I am a second career nurse to be. I am so excited, did lots of research into NYC nursing schools and various programs... Read More

  1. by   mrsabradford
    Quote from MarniPT
    hi,
    although i am not a nurse (im a PT) i am a graduate of both laguardia and hunter college. i have been through all the red tape of cuny and then some. it can be very very frustrating and annoying, but unfortunately this is the price you pay when trying to get into a public (and very cheap!) college. For people who have families and need to get out of school and work fast it's almost impossible because it does take a long time to get all the prereq's done, because so many classes are filled up quickly.
    the bottom line is plan on taking more than 2 years to get an associates and more than 4 for the bachelors.

    The up side is I got a great education; and i've heard Hunter nursing students also get a great education.
    I've also heard that Hunter had an excellent nursing program many years ago.
    You're right, you get what you paid for.
  2. by   mrsabradford
    Quote from minnielynn
    I am very sorry to hear what you have been going through and I do thank you for sharing that experience. I really hope that all goes well with the dean, for your future education and ours. I hope that administration takes this situation seriously and rectifies it. Let us know the outcome of the meeting. :uhoh21:
    I met with the math teacher yesterday, her choice. She graded my latest exam I got a 73%, as of this date my average is a 75.6%, excluding my last test and the final that is worth 35% of the grade. I reiterated my situation. She tried to advise me to take a WU which is an F. Then she suggested that I take an incomplete, which is also an F, besides I have completed all of my work. She then said that she will speak with the liaison of the math and nursing department to see what he suggests. She asked me to give her until Friday. I'm not looking for an A, although it would be nice, I just want a B. I don't see the problem if you add my attendance and class participation and homework and that stupid paper that I had to write which she said would be worth 5% of the grade.

    Am I being unreasonable or asking for too much?

    Anyway, I spoke with the dean she said to let her know by Monday whether or not I want to drop the class.
  3. by   SBUalum03
    Quote from mrsabradford
    I already have a BA degree. I've also attended four different schools in acquiring my degree: Pace University, BMCC, City College (visiting student) and The College of Mount Saint Vincent. When I attended BMCC in the past I gave it rave reviews now from what I have seen and heard I beg to differ.
    Could you please tell me more about the College of Mount Saint Vincent? I have made this my #1 choice, because they give you 75 credits if you already have a Bachelors degree and 3 years to get a BSN is not too bad.
  4. by   mrsabradford
    Quote from SBUalum03
    Could you please tell me more about the College of Mount Saint Vincent? I have made this my #1 choice, because they give you 75 credits if you already have a Bachelors degree and 3 years to get a BSN is not too bad.
    I graduated from CMSV with a Bachelors in Communications. I was not remotely interested in nursing at the time. All I can say is that the program is very hard and students dropped like flies during clinicals. A lot of tears were shed. I graduated in 1995 so a lot may have changed. I don't know. Also, there are a lot of scholarships given to Filipino students. Former President of the Phillipines Corazon Aquino graduated from there.

    I hope I was able to help somewhat.

    PS. If you live on campus, it is a great place to study. It is so peaceful and tranquil. I loved being on campus.
  5. by   SBUalum03
    Quote from mrsabradford
    I graduated from CMSV with a Bachelors in Communications. I was not remotely interested in nursing at the time. All I can say is that the program is very hard and students dropped like flies during clinicals. A lot of tears were shed. I graduated in 1995 so a lot may have changed. I don't know. Also, there are a lot of scholarships given to Filipino students. Former President of the Phillipines Corazon Aquino graduated from there.

    I hope I was able to help somewhat.

    PS. If you live on campus, it is a great place to study. It is so peaceful and tranquil. I loved being on campus.
    Thank You for the info
  6. by   MsDrea03
    I often read the forums on this site but never registered and posted, so let me start off by saying hello to all. I am currently a pre-req. student within the nursing program at BMCC. I have to say this school has its up's and down's. I am currently enrolled in a nursing math class and i would have to say my professor sucks. Honestly speaking my professor is the worse at teaching. My fellow classmates and I often just open our text at home and learn on our own. mrsabradford... by reading your posts i recognized that you are one of my classmates... =) Whats going on with the DEAN?!?!?
    I am not here to discouraged anyone from attending BMCC, but let the truth be told you want to get your money worth. Another thing is although BMCC does not have a waiting list many people spend semester after semester reapplying to get in, the GPA right now is a bit competitive.
    Last edit by MsDrea03 on May 10, '04
  7. by   minnielynn
    :uhoh21: I dont understand why doesnt anyone inform the dean of this particular teacher? and if this has been reported why hasn't something been done about it?!!! I was just accepted to the BMCC Nursing program, but if it takes semester after semester then what are the chances of getting in?

    Also in what way is the math professor bad? is he a hard teacher or just a bad teacher that doesn't know how to teach? and could they be doing this on purpose as to keep the gpa low? or am i now getting paranoid ? :imbar:uhoh21:
  8. by   MsDrea03
    :imbar Hate to be the one giving bad news... but this math teacher is not one who is a hard teacher. She just doesnt know how to teach. Not to mention her frequent mistakes that are pointed out by the students in which she replies sorry "everyone makes mistakes and it was a long day." A complaint have been placed on her to the dean, but still no affrimative action. Although I am doing pretty well in this class, it frustrates me that professors at BMCC are not at its best. Some may say hey its a community college but its not free, and I personally do not feel that i am getting my $$$ worth all the way.:angryfire
  9. by   minnielynn
    and i hope that this does get rectified because this hurts students in more ways than one. for example what do you do with the so-called math she's teaching? oh boy

    is she the daytime math teacher or the night time. i am going to be attending the night classes?
  10. by   LuvaNurse04
    You can PM me if you want. I can tell you of two evening math professors who are really good. Many times during a nursing exam, we (my classmates and I) all thought back to various things that we learned in their classes. It helped through all four semesters.

    Once again, I hope that the dean provides some results to those who are in this person's math class. I mean, if you are not into providing the best learning experience to those who are in your class, then why be there? It's truly an injustice to the students. Plus the fact that the nursing dept only wants THIS math class. They do not accept any other from other schools. Math questions were on every single nursing exam (at least 5 questions, 2points each). As challenging as most of those exams were, we relied on getting all of our math questions right in order to have a better chance to receive a successful score. 10 points can create a thin line of pass/fail.

    Quote from minnielynn
    and i hope that this does get rectified because this hurts students in more ways than one. for example what do you do with the so-called math she's teaching? oh boy

    is she the daytime math teacher or the night time. i am going to be attending the night classes?
  11. by   mrsabradford
    Quote from MsDrea03
    I often read the forums on this site but never registered and posted, so let me start off by saying hello to all. I am currently a pre-req. student within the nursing program at BMCC. I have to say this school has its up's and down's. I am currently enrolled in a nursing math class and i would have to say my professor sucks. Honestly speaking my professor is the worse at teaching. My fellow classmates and I often just open our text at home and learn on our own. mrsabradford... by reading your posts i recognized that you are one of my classmates... =) Whats going on with the DEAN?!?!?
    I am not here to discouraged anyone from attending BMCC, but let the truth be told you want to get your money worth. Another thing is although BMCC does not have a waiting list many people spend semester after semester reapplying to get in, the GPA right now is a bit competitive.

    What a coincidence! I spoke with the dean and as a result she withdrew me from class on Friday, May 7th.

    I have been complaining for awhile and I was told to wait and see if things can be resolved. Let me tell you what the professor told me. She wanted me to meet her the same day. However, she wasn't aware that I was speaking with the dean. She graded my last exam. She took off points for not writing 2 or 3 sentences and leaving the word different out.

    Yes folks! I am still talking about Math class. We also had a paper to write and she corrected me for not writing definitions. Yes, math class not English, which by the way I am already taking.

    Anyway, she wanted me to take a wu or an incomplete. Let me make this very clear I was not failing the class nor was I in danger of failing the class. A wu and an incomplete are both F's!!!!!!! Why would you offer a student, who is passing the class an F grade? I'll let you guys think about it. I've developed my own theory. Anyway, after she seen the look on my face she said that she would speak with the math and nursing departments' liaison and see what he suggests. I don't know the results of that because I never saw the witch again! HOORaY!

    Although, the class didn't like the professor either they refused to speak up and be heard. I know that I am only one voice but sometimes that is all that it takes. Besides, I wasn't telling them anything that they didn't already know. I went to the math department last night to see if a particular teacher would be teaching math 104 in the summer or fall and I happened to mention the witch. Another professor told me that she is horrible. Students have complained about her before when she taught Math 100.

    Why isn't she a good teacher? She doesn't know how to teach. She is constantly being corrected by the class and is a dingbat. She even tested us on something that she never taught. When the class complained she offered to subtract 2 points as opposed to 5 points from our grade. She offered this even after admitting that she knew that she never taught that.

    I hate to have to take the class over again after all of this time and money; however, I rather take it over than get kicked out of the program for that idiot. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.

    I'm glad that someone finally spoke up so that you all know that I am not making this up. This is really happening. I'm not just complaining, I am indeed warning you. Also, I was told from someone else on this website that they are no longer taking any more students for the evening class. So, I guess now they'll be a waiting list because they closed the day program a while ago.

    P.S. Let me know who you are I am very curious.
    mrsabradford@hotmail.com

    Mary Jane
  12. by   aespangl
    Hi:
    I just applied to the bmcc yesterday & wanted to get the real deal on the school. I already received my bachelor's degree a few years ago at a top public university. Therefore, I thought it would be easier for me to get in, due to the fact I already have a Bachelor's Degree in Science. But, I found this is not the case so far. Fortunately, some of my credits transfer over. However, I have to take English 101, when I already tested out of that class when I entered college before. Therefore, I have to go back? BMCC will not accept the fact that I tested out. Does anyone have a reputable contact in the Admissions Dept that could answer my questions about the nursing program? For instance, will BMCC Nursing School not even look at my application until I fulfill prereqs, like Eng 101, Math 104, etc?

    I have been reading this forum & have been going back and forth about the school. I hear it is a great nursing school, but then again...

    If anyone has any advice..perhaps another nyc nursing school that someone could recommend, I would appreciate it. I moved to nyc about 1.5 years ago, and am still learning about the various schools out here.
  13. by   LuvaNurse04
    There is a gentleman that works in the admissions office who is in charge of transfer credits. I cannot remember his full name, but contact me by email or private message and I'll tell you his first name and what he looks like. He was very helpful to me and others who had transfer credits. I was originally told that I needed to take remedial math because my CUNY scores from '94 was above passing for my other CUNY school, but has since changed at BMCC and I was a point off. I complained to the testing office that I had graduated a CUNY bachelors program so how could I have to take a remedial? I was even set to take an exam with the math office to dispute this. I eventually found my way back to this man in admissions. He sent me to the testing office with my CUNY transcript, circled that I graduated, and signed it. They immediately placed a waiver on my transcript and I was able to register for Math 104. This may help you with that English class. Hopefully he is still there.

    The Nursing Department has an advisor for pre clinical students like yourself. You are not able to actually apply to the program until you have completed the basic pre requisites. I'm speaking of the eve program. I'm not sure if it holds true for the day program. Hope this helped.

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