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Joined Jun 13, '10 - from 'Somewhere'. She has '2 RN, 3 tech' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Med-Surg, NICU'. Posts: 2,118 (60% Liked) Likes: 5,760

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  • Jun 27

    There are at least a hundred threads here asking the same question. If you type your question into the search box you will find answers that run the gamut from "NPs are as good as doctors" to "without experience you'll kill people" and everything in between. Happy reading.

  • Jun 23

    Unfortunately, the mediocre raises usually more than get eaten up by the health insurance premium increases...

  • Jun 21

    God, no. I'm usually handing them a newborn, and I am *so* over that stage of my life. Newborns are cute, but those things don't sleep, man.

  • Jun 21

    I also bristle a bit when the term baby nurse is used to refer to an inexperienced nurse. Words are important, and using a term that essentially infantilizes an adult healthcare professional is a no-go (in my humble opinion). Plus, I always think of baby nurses as nurses who take care of babies.

  • Jun 21

    Quote from glencovediva
    I am facing the worst kind of discrimination because I am returning after an 8 year family leave. A Nurse refresher course is a $2100, so that's not possible. Hospitals say they will call me, but never do. I'm trying to keep positive that something will come up.
    Sorry, you haven't worked in eight years (EIGHT YEARS) and it's discrimination because nobody wants to hire you without a refresher course? Not only that but it's the WORST kind of discrimination? You are not living in reality, my friend. Is this for real?

  • Jun 21

    I don't think you envy them, exactly.

    I think you envy their perceived lack of responsibility, maybe mixed in with the attention they receive.

    Or (and I say this as gently as possible - bear in mind that I have atypical depression myself) you may have a degree of depression yet to be diagnosed or treated (or treated inadequately).

  • Jun 21

    Quote from purplegal
    Be honest--do you ever [envy] the patients you take care of, even just a little bit?
    Sure, because being healthy is such a drag...

    Are you seriously telling me that you'd rather be sick than able-bodied?

    I wish I could have a call light to press every time I needed every single little thing.
    You'd enjoy being dependent on others? Is this really how you feel or are you just creating posts that will likely result in a bit of drama?

    Is there any way to speed up my life so I can finally reach the age where I get to sleep all day, lol?
    That's sad. Live your life, you only get one. Old age will come soon enough.

    I don't understand you. Just recently you were worrying that time was running out for you at the ripe old age of twenty-six, now you're longing for a time when you'll be bedbound and infirm?

  • Jun 12

    Quote from Avid reader
    I really cannot see what this nurse has to be upset about? This should be par for the course predictable behaviors giving the situation described and the subsequent reactions expected. Ill pt, kidney replacement?, if not pathology then abuse, if abuse then very likely the peripherals IE family, social status, education, all points to expected behaviours. Just generalizing so no abuse re peripherals.

    People are upset in traumatic situations and one cannot reasonably expect reserved behaviours unless they are brought up and schooled reservedly. One has to be cool, polite,respectful and considerate because it's part of being a nurse aside from our clinical expertise.

    You think it's OK for family to be rude to nurses because they are upset? They don't yell at doctors. So there's no acceptable reason for them to yell at nurses.

  • Jun 12

    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    It sounds like he isn't that into you, especially if you are the one doing all the initiating. I would cut him loose.
    This reminds me of 2 books I read "He's Just Not That Into You" & "It's Called a Breakup Because It's Broken" by Greg Behrendt & Liz Tuccillo. Both great books to read & the movie version is *terrible* & is *nothing* like the book!

  • Jun 11

    1. You are a new grad with an acute care job in med-surg; in the kindest way possible, I suggest you get over yourself. This job, if you learn from it and apply yourself will put you in a good position to change to other specialties down the road. Again, you are employed. Look at other posts if you don't think you're lucky.

    2. Do whatever you can to make inroads into getting into peds. Study/review, get certifications, offer to float, get a per diem job somewhere, make yourself known through the hospital by joining committees, doing extra things (within reason). In short, make connections.

  • Jun 9

    FYI, nurses don't get paid that much. Especially for what we do. It may seem like a lot when you are young, but when you add it all up with COLA, it's enough to support yourself. Not much more.

    If you have the absolute desire to be a nurse, great. I wouldn't take a year off though. It will be hard to go back. A lot of life will happen in that year, trust me. Been there, done that.

  • Jun 8

    Quote from LovingLife123
    This job doesn't sound so great, but reason for not going full time at the other job was kind of weak. You need a lunch and a break or you are not safe? What makes you not safe by not having a 15 minute break?

    I get needing to eat. I need to eat. I don't get to every day, but I at least shove something down. But never am I not safe and that is a cop out to me.
    I don't know. I think most nurses are just used to the fact that they probably won't get their breaks, and sometimes not even a full lunch. I think it's become so common that instead of speaking out about it, we treat it as normal and tell everyone else to deal with it. I personally don't feel like I need additional breaks to feel safe, but I don't think it's strange that someone working a 12 hour shift that requires a lot of mental and physical stamina would need more than just a 30 minute break in there. The fact is that lots of great nurses out there make fatal mistakes every year, and I believe that if we weren't running around like crazy during the entire shift, we would be safer. Just my $0.02.

    Now, I would never turn down a full-time job because of this, but I wouldn't ever want to normalize this less-than-delightful feature of nursing. It needs to change. Now, whether or not it ever will change is another question for another day.

  • Jun 5

    "I don't want to return to nursing ever," to quote you. Resign and be done with it.

  • Jun 4

    Quote from hgraves64
    So, I'm a Float pool nurse, and last night, I was pulling meds when a Staff nurse comes up to me. Without so much of a "hello", he snaps, "How many patients do you have?"

    My eyebrows raise. "Are you Charge or Resource nurse?" I ask.

    "No," he answers

    "Then it's none of your business," I respond.

    "I have five patients tonight. How many do you have? Are you taking any admits?" he continues to press.

    "Again, it's NONE.OF.YOUR.BUSINESS. Take it up with Charge if you have a problem," I retort.

    "Oh, I'm just making conversation," he sneers.

    "No, you're being nosy. And I don't have to deal with it!" I reply.

    I told the Charge nurse about her Staff nurse's wildly inappropriate questioning. Charge said that "she would deal with it. At the end of the shift, Staff nurse had not apologized for his behavior, so I emailed his manager about the incident. The manager did not email me back.

    Would there be anything else you would have done?
    I say this will all kindness, but I think you overreacted. A. Lot.

    Asking about your patient load is not inappropriate. Asking about religion, politics, sex: now THOSE are or can be inappropriate questions. But patient load? Not even in the same ballpark!

    Nor, based on what you said, did it appear that he was ordering you around or making your patient assignment either. He asked about your patient load and whether you were taking admissions. All appropriate questions to ask of float staff. All appropriate for float staff to answer. And had he tried to assign or task you with something, you could have referred him to the charge RN, told him you'd check with the charge to see if you could do it, or said "sorry, I can't help right now."

    Also, not all nurses are the warm and cuddly type either. I wasn't there so I don't know exactly how the words were exchanged. But some nurses are brusque and to the point, especially if they have a crisis going on (or potentially going on) and are seeking help. Brusque and to the point doesn't necessarily equate to rude and inappropriate. Case in point: if I have a crisis going on, I'm not going to spend 5 minutes exchanging pleasantries with you before asking if you can help. The crisis may NOT be able to wait 5 minutes while I get to know your name, how you're doing, what your favorite color is, etc. I'm going to cut to the chase and immediately find out if you can help me or not. The "getting to know you" can wait until downtime.

    So while there's a possibility he could have been a little more pleasant/polite in his approach--again, I wasn't there so I don't have tone, body language, etc. to go on--being direct doesn't necessarily mean he was being inappropriate.

    And as your responses pretty much iced him, you can't honestly expect him to thaw to you after that. A simple "I can't/don't want to talk right now, sorry" would have sufficed. Going on about how he has no right to know since he wasn't charge/resource/etc. wasn't the best choice of words on your part.

    Switch shoes with him for a moment: how would YOU have reacted if he had said what you did to you? Some food for thought for the future. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he complained to the charge about how you treated him as well.

    IMO, escalating it to the manager is probably not to get you that apology either. Charge RN and manager are likely thinking that there really has been no harm, no foul.

    Of course, one way to solve this problem is to refuse to float to that unit again. Then you don't have to deal with him.

    Though to be honest, I don't see you being asked to float back to that unit any time soon as, based on what you write, your words and attitude came across as being far more hostile than his. And managers and charge nurses don't want that hostility around as it impairs teamwork and morale. So they may end up resolving the problem for you by not having you back if they can help it. More food for thought for you.

    Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear.

  • Jun 4

    I agree with everyone else but because I suspect you probably email management a lot I would like for you to consider something.

    I really wish that we would think twice before emailing management. I have a friend that works as an ANM and when visiting her once she was showing me the amount of emails she gets every day and the types of complaints and it is so absurd. We are grown adults that are supposed to be mature enough to handle sick and dying people. Yet we can't handle benign conflicts with co-workers. Not only does it bog down management to deal with petty absurd stuff, but these are peoples careers and jobs you're putting on the line and over what?? Because you didn't like the way someone asked a question? I mean we need to accept that there are people we are going to clash with and not get a long with. But unless they are directly threatening you, or putting patients in harms way or something serious. Let's either be adult enough to go to THEM with our issue and try to work it out. Or accept that you're never going to be friends and keep it professional. Because I have seen cases where it was easier for management to just run off the employee that some people just didn't like, rather than deal with the constant busy bodies that seem to have so much time to constantly email management .

    That persons job could have meant everything to them and they could have had a whole lot on their plate but because they weren't super personable they didn't deserve a job? Anyway just something I wish people would consider.

    In my 6 years I think I have emailed my management 2 times about a nurse. One time I was voluntold to because the other nurse was out of line and the charge nurse and house supervisor said it needed to be officially reported. The other a nurse physically threatened me and it was witnessed by patients and another nurse. Even then I wouldn't have, I would have just met her outside like she wanted. but I could see why they felt it needed to be reported. But since becoming a nurse there have been tons of times other nurses have annoyed me or ticked me off. If it's something that I can't let go I confront them privately. Usually the problem gets resolved after that.


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