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by irwin

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I was wondering how many of you guys out there, faced the same problem I have. Females whining about nearly almost everything?? I thought living with my mom and lil sister for 19 years, and my blonde girlfriend were bad, It makes... Read More


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    Quote from irwin
    furthermore the whining is not like what a patient would do, it's more about instructors, clinical rotations, and the like..they get beaten before they start with the typical female gossip "i heard they did this to make you not do this" i don't care what other people said negatively before, i'm just goin in there to do it, as best as i can, and have a rewarding job, i don't care for the horror stories of last semesters students
    hey, irwin, i am a female and i am not insulted by what you just said, however i would like to put out that men do it too. back to your question... i drown whining out by listening to music with my pda. so, the ipod idea is not a bad one. if asked, i tell people i am studying and i need to review my notes... its the truth too.

    by the way, not only don't i like whining, but i hate people discussing questions regarding an exam or quiz we are just about to take! so i do it for that reason as well.

    there are times i am not able to put my music on because it would be rude or the class has started, so in that case i engage the whiner and inform him/her that he/she should look at the situation differently... i offer suggestions that usually contrast his/her point of view. this usually shuts the whiner or whiners up. people who whine want company. they do not want someone who makes them look like whiners. good luck.
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    I was wondering how many of you guys out there, faced the same problem I have. Females whining about nearly almost everything?? I thought living with my mom and lil sister for 19 years, and my blonde girlfriend were bad, It makes it seem like heaven compared to school, also whats with those personally invasive questions? I have resorted to bringing an ipod to school, and listenin to music, so I don't have to be brought down and potentially scared by their whining and ranting, and seemingly its more with the older people (im only 20..so I mean like 30 yr old females and stuff) I get along great with the young chicks. I just told one, to quit asking me these questions, and to stop treating me like a kid (i have the highest gpa in the class) and she got all up in arms and offended...What did I do to deserve this? I think im gona prolly turn into either an avon sales man after nursing school, or a sheep lover...im only messing. But do any of you fellah's know what I mean?
    This is coming from a female nursing student, AMEN BROTHER! I am experiencing the same thing in my classes. There are days when it takes all my strength to stay in my seat and not tell them all to SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! I guess this is why I get along better with men in work/school environments. Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those women incapable of having female friends but I can't stand all the *****ing and whining. "professor so-n-so can't we move the test date b/c we have another test that day." "How do they expect us to do all this?" "blah, blah, complain, compain." You are also right that it does tend to come from the older women in class. This is equally as troubling for me b/c I am 29 and I feel like wearing a sign to class that says "I'm not one of them!"
    Last edit by Roy Fokker on Aug 17, '06
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    Quote from runn40
    This is coming from a female nursing student, AMEN BROTHER! I am experiencing the same thing in my classes. There are days when it takes all my strength to stay in my seat and not tell them all to SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! I guess this is why I get along better with men in work/school environments. Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those women incapable of having female friends but I can't stand all the ******** and whining. "professor so-n-so can't we move the test date b/c we have another test that day." "How do they expect us to do all this?" "blah, blah, complain, compain." You are also right that it does tend to come from the older women in class. This is equally as troubling for me b/c I am 29 and I feel like wearing a sign to class that says "I'm not one of them!"
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    Thank you for all of the advice, and to the two ladies that have posted. A little update, now that we are into the meat of our nsg fundies book, 6 chapters a day, I found some really cool adults, just be open and give them a chance, they prolly whine because they are even more scared than we are, I mean, I still walk around the hospital looking like a deer in headlights, but seeing someone in my boat makes it all better. Ofcourse there is still the bad apples, they have formed a clique, and question every little thing the instructor says and start to argue with them, I believe the teacher knows better than any of us, therefore what she says is like bible to me, especially when it comes out of the nursing book that I am sure was not written by some student wanting to impress someone. Shine with your clinical skills, test scores, and bedside manner, not trying to correct someone that took it apon themselves to make the new breed of nurses to follow in their footsteps. Since I like sports, I think of my instructors as my coach, the staff we follow for clinicals the starters, and me the lowly freshmen as being the practice squad. I'm not out to prove anything like these people are except that I am competent enough to earn my license and get a dream job that will leave me with self satisfaction everyday when I punch the clock and head home, I'll question to clairify, not feed my ego, nursing school shattered that ego REAL QUICK! lol
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    Quote from irwin
    Thank you for all of the advice, and to the two ladies that have posted. A little update, now that we are into the meat of our nsg fundies book, 6 chapters a day, I found some really cool adults, just be open and give them a chance, they prolly whine because they are even more scared than we are, I mean, I still walk around the hospital looking like a deer in headlights, but seeing someone in my boat makes it all better. Ofcourse there is still the bad apples, they have formed a clique, and question every little thing the instructor says and start to argue with them, I believe the teacher knows better than any of us, therefore what she says is like bible to me, especially when it comes out of the nursing book that I am sure was not written by some student wanting to impress someone. Shine with your clinical skills, test scores, and bedside manner, not trying to correct someone that took it apon themselves to make the new breed of nurses to follow in their footsteps. Since I like sports, I think of my instructors as my coach, the staff we follow for clinicals the starters, and me the lowly freshmen as being the practice squad. I'm not out to prove anything like these people are except that I am competent enough to earn my license and get a dream job that will leave me with self satisfaction everyday when I punch the clock and head home, I'll question to clairify, not feed my ego, nursing school shattered that ego REAL QUICK! lol
    Well done I applaud you. Like the two other female posters I dont like whiners either. When I started reading this thread I thought you a bit egotistical/ idealisic but now you have learnt to deal with them and differenciate between the types of classmates you have you are well on the way to putting up will all the whining you will hear from both colleagues and even worse from patients (you said their whining was different but if you listen it isnt that different, they argue with nurses and medics about treatments and diagnosis not to mention the everyday niggles of a bored patient lol). Good luck with your future and dont forget to set aside a little time to moan yourself it helps you feel closer to colleagues who know what you are going through.
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    Quote from irwin
    I am competent enough to earn my license and get a dream job that will leave me with self satisfaction everyday when I punch the clock and head home, I'll question to clairify, not feed my ego, nursing school shattered that ego REAL QUICK! lol
    The essence of this thread!
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    Interesting...the comments about the "older students" being the ones that argue with instructors, argue with nurses and medics, etc. I **guess** I qualify as an older female student (47, ya think?) and I would like to put out there that possibly what you are seeing here is the realization that comes with age that The People In Charge don't always know everything and older people are more willing to challenge and confront (at least if you were raised post-60's). This comes from myriad personal experiences of having every one from sales clerks to government employees to personal physicians to real estate agents saying..."really?...hmm... I guess I didn't think of that" when you brought up an overlooked point. In fact, it can benefit the entire class. I'm thinking in particular of Assessment Skills 101, where the lecture was on lung sounds, and the instructor was reading from the book where it said lung sounds in a patient with a consolidated pneumonia would be increased. I questioned her on that. She repeated it. I repeated back "lungs sounds in a patient with a consolidated pneumonia would be increased, not decreased?" She nodded. I said " I disagree." She said, "I do too." Now, it may be that I'm coming from previous training/experience as a paramedic (a card I play close to the chest) when I say lung sounds in a patient with a consolidated pneumonia will be decreased; regardless, see what questioning can bring forth? So take it with a grain of salt when the older females argue... perhaps in another 20 years you will understand better...
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    Cutting the op some slack here . . . .but I have to agree that there is alot of whining.

    In fact, when I was an anatomy proctor, we made t-shirts for the professor that said "No Whining".

    And the truth is SOMETIMES SOME women get together and "man-bash" or "work-bash".

    There is one male RN where I work who is a terrible gossip too by the way.

    Irwin - sounds like you are doing well, from your further posts.

    Good luck.

    steph


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