New laws requiring LPNs and RNs to become BSN by 2016 - page 3

by Vocationofalifetime, BSN, RN | 19,554 Views | 32 Comments

Hello, I'm an LPN (since 1993), and have recently learned that LPNs and 3-year/or diploma RNs are required to become BSNs before 2016 in order to keep their jobs. The change is apparently due to the new medicare laws and... Read More


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    Quote from Vocationofalifetime
    Hello,

    I'm an LPN (since 1993), and have recently learned that LPNs and 3-year/or diploma RNs are required to become BSNs before 2016 in order to keep their jobs. The change is apparently due to the new medicare laws and 'Obamacare'. Does anyone know if this is true?

    Last Summer, incidentally, I decided to pursue my BSN degree as I would like to increase knowledge and develop my skills as a hands on nurse in the field of pediatrics. Thus, I had already started down this road on my own. Interestingly, my nursing supervisor (Master's level) informed me shortly after I had enrolled in a LPN-BSN program, that it would be required by law by 2016 for all LPNs and RNs without a BSN to obtain a BSN in order to practice nursing in the future.

    I haven't heard any news released about this requirement, and if it's actually true, why isn't this knowledge to all nurses (LPNs and RNs) working out in the field? I'm posting this thread to create a dialogue about this issue. Does anyone know anything about this?

    Thanks!
    This has been talked about since the beginning of time.....it hasn't happened yet. They will HAVE to grandfather in ALL presently practicing RN's OR they will have to pay, IN FULL, for their education (federal labor laws)

    There have been many initiatives....BSN in 10....which applies to only new practicing RN's from a certain point forward will have to obtain a BSN within 10 years. This has not passed any legislation for it is expensive for all involved and demanding further education to maintain a position requires reimbursement....I have my own personal theories on why this is being pushed but that is another thread.

    That this is being hooked to Obama-care....is like everything being hooked to HIPAA.....it's urban legend to scare people into a specific behavior or belief for control purposes.....nothing more....nothing less.

    To require BSN entry will close all of the community college programs and the for profit programs across the country causing it's own economic crisis....let alone the few diploma schools.

    They have been closing diploma schools, LPN programs for YEARS!!!!!!!! and I graduated 34 years ago. while I believe that with the current market with the surplus of nurses it is wise to get a BSN especially if you are just entering the profession...... because of the future job opportunities that will going forward that will not be available to ADN/diploma grads.

    The phasing out of LPN's is another urban legend.....while it has been sucessful to some degree....LPN's will ALWAYS have a place in medicine.
    loveoverpride, nursel56, Fiona59, and 1 other like this.
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    Iowa IS doing this. As of 2015 (April), if you have not already taken RN Boards, you will be getting a BSN. They are doing this by licensing restrictions. The first renewal is at 2 years, so at that time you must be ENROLLED in a BSN program. By the next renewal (3 years) you must have GRADUATED that program. If these requirements are not met, you will not be granted your license. RN's that take their Boards before then are obviously grandfathered in but a lot of the hospitals (even rural) are just flat out not hiring ADN grads anymore. It's a tough situation.
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    Thank you all for your help in clearing up this issue for me! I am constantly amazed by the community that we have as nurses, no matter what our specialties or educational levels!

    Have a Happy and Safe 4th of July!

    Leslie
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    I don't know of any state lef push for bsn nurses beyond new York. some facilities are going bsn-preferref, though. I'll be happy to be a diploma or ADN RN.
    if hospitals want more BSN nurses, (since they dont wanna help nurses foot the bill) they need to make it worth our while and INCREASE THE PAY. honestly, when I was a student I thought that was the plan. why would I assume more debt and stress to earn a bs only to hit the floor earning the same as someone who took shortcuts?
    money is a motivator. that's why I'm pursuing an rn, in the first place.
    ever worked ltc? you can't even tell the diff between an rn and lvn. we have 3 and they train and get us certified to do various tasks because they don't want to have to come in to do it.
    lvns don't do assessments...really?
    ...because that's the lie that was oft-repeated in nursing school by my instructors.

    darn right I'm 'hating'! lol
    I want my RN because I want to paid 10-15 more per hour to do the same job that I'm doing now.

    as it is with a bsn. they want folks to get a bsn? well, they need to create more value in receiving one.
    I don't work for pennies. no nurse should.
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    Strictly from a strategy viewpoint, it seems to me that because of current employment conditions (no shortage) if the ANA, AACN, and their allied groups wanted to make a big push in the state legislatures to make BSN entry the law, there would not be a better time, and I don't see it happening. Meaning ultimately that the internal arguing will continue indefinitely into the future, accomplishing nothing but the continued fracture within.
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    I live in Vancouver BC and they did this several years back but with RNs only. They grandfathered in many of the nurses who had been working for years. I know that for the health authority that I work for, you get a monthly bonus if you have your degree. LPNs still have their own scope and practice and their education varies from province to province from 1 year to 2 years.
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    There are several states that are requiring that the BSN become the entry level for nursing it has nothing to do with obama care it has to do with recommendation from the ANA, with the big push for it citing a study done that shows patients receive better care with an all BSN staff and with nursing basing everything on evidence base practice that is where some states are leaning. I read an article that in 2015 New York is the last year for the ADN nurses and they have like 10 yrs to get their BSN or they will be out of job in 2025.
    Here is my question where is the money for education going to come from student loans are in the crapper their are not enough seats to be accepted into a program I feel that this will just throw the healthcare field into more disarray.
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    I see no reason to force LPNs to obtain BSNs as LPNs and RNs traditionally perform slightly different roles, but I support having all BSN-prepared RNs. It is in the better interests of the profession. In my state, most LPNs are in long-term care, and that seems to be where they thrive and make the best money. My hospital doesn't have any. Many offices have moved to CMAs. I'm not sure if the 2016 time frame for the BSN requirement is entirely practical, but it would be great to have it happen by the end of the decade.
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    Quote from nc2bc
    I live in Vancouver BC and they did this several years back but with RNs only. They grandfathered in many of the nurses who had been working for years. I know that for the health authority that I work for, you get a monthly bonus if you have your degree. LPNs still have their own scope and practice and their education varies from province to province from 1 year to 2 years.
    I work in Alberta. The last diploma RN graduated in 2009. Now the only route for an RN is the four year degree. All working RNs have been basically grandfathered. RNs who hold management positions are/were required to complete a degree.

    The old diploma RN programme has become the PN course.

    No viable bridge exists between the LPN and the RN now in Alberta.

    Somewhere in the depths of the CNA archives there exists a document outlining how they would like to see nursing in Canada flow. In their academic ivory tower world, the entry to nursing would be the PN diploma, advancing through BScN to MSN and onto PhD level. All by the year 2020. Like I said they live in a dream world.
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    Quote from niteguy65
    There are several states that are requiring that the BSN become the entry level for nursing it has nothing to do with obama care it has to do with recommendation from the ANA, with the big push for it citing a study done that shows patients receive better care with an all BSN staff and with nursing basing everything on evidence base practice that is where some states are leaning. I read an article that in 2015 New York is the last year for the ADN nurses and they have like 10 yrs to get their BSN or they will be out of job in 2025.
    Here is my question where is the money for education going to come from student loans are in the crapper their are not enough seats to be accepted into a program I feel that this will just throw the healthcare field into more disarray.
    There's been a lot of talk but as of yet, no state has a law that requires RNs to have a BSN as entry-to practice or any time limit on when they have to get a BSN, or that requires an ADN nurse to earn a BSN in order to renew their license (referring to a previous post there).


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