LPNs Often Fare Better Than Some Degree Earners - page 5

Some readers might be aware that a college bubble is forming in the United States. Since so many people in this day and age have earned college degrees when compared to previous generations, the... Read More

  1. Visit  nursecolleen profile page
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    I am a LPN and currently making more than most of my friends with Bachelor's degrees. I earn more than double what two of my friends with Master's degrees earn. I made $69k my first full year out of nursing school ten years ago. I worked my butt off for it but I was still proud that my one year program made such a positive financial impact on my family. People can say whatever they want about LPNs but there is no other option that I know of that allows you to make such a change in your financial situation in so little time and for such little tuition. It was the best option for me and I dont regret it one bit.
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  2. Visit  whatdoIdonow? profile page
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    Quote from nursecolleen
    I am a LPN and currently making more than most of my friends with Bachelor's degrees. I earn more than double what two of my friends with Master's degrees earn. I made $69k my first full year out of nursing school ten years ago. I worked my butt off for it but I was still proud that my one year program made such a positive financial impact on my family. People can say whatever they want about LPNs but there is no other option that I know of that allows you to make such a change in your financial situation in so little time and for such little tuition. It was the best option for me and I dont regret it one bit.
    This focus on the earnings just proves my point that a tech degree is all about the money, not the education. It's about the return on an investment. Period. It's not about getting an education-writing papers, reading literature etc etc- an education. It's about learning the steps to suctioning, to in/out catheters, etc etc and LOTS of paperwork!!! Being at the LPN level is going to place many elements outside the scope of practice (for example today an LPN wasn't even allowed to sign off on reading a PPD result! I had to go behind her and sign. Not that she wasn't perfectly able to understand and interpret the results- she was-she just wasn't legally allowed to assume that role.) LPN may earn money, but the scope is limited. That's fine if the goal is strictly on earnings and not advancement. There is no shame in providing for yourself monetarily. And many facilities don't need anyone with a scope of practice more advanced than an LPN's due to the low acuity of the patients or the availablity of other RN's to fill that role. It doesn't matter how much the LPN understands, she will be limited in what she can do legally.

    As far as making $69K, good for you! Bet you were working many 16 hour shifts to do it! And if it makes you feel superior to your friends with Master's Degrees because you were the smart one who only invested a year and made double their salaries...I think that statement kinda shows why an education is necessary in the first place...so people won't measure their worth based simply on the size of their paycheck.
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  3. Visit  kath<3 profile page
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    One thing I would add.....there is only one hospital in my area that still hires LPN's and AN's. The rest of the hospitals require at least a BSN. Watching some of the people I know going back to school because they are stuck where they are is another reason I am glad I chose the BSN. I got into nursing to be a nurse.....not for the income, however if you want to talk income I know LPN's are only making a little over what a tech makes and a lot less than what I make. In order to bring home a good salary a LPN would have to work some hellacious over time....which is something I really do not want to do....it would make me miserable and not a very good nurse.
  4. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    I gotta say. As an Unemployed RN, I am bringing in good money through unemployment because of all those "high stress. high pay" jobs I worked for years. I am looking and looking to get back into a nursing job that suits me. But since seriously looking for new employment over the past 6-8 weeks, as I sift through the want ads and sits like Monster, Craig's List and so on. There are far more openings and job postings for not only LPN's but CNA's as well!!I'd say the ratio is for every one RN job opening there are 3-4 LPN's wanted and my gosh the need for CNA's right now is overwhelming. At least in my area. When I went to school for nursing my mistake was listening to well meaning people telling me "Oh go straight for the RN, there is so much more you can do with a degree." um... NOT! I have worked with some fantastically brilliant LPN's and CNA's in my time. Without you guys I couldn't do my job. Your title isn't what what makes you or breaks you in this industry. It's how you play the game so to speak. Just my thoughts and obervations.
    A lot of the LPN jobs available are the hit the ground running and dare I say it lower skill level so less training is needed or at all so employers are less hesitant to hire more of us. Even as a new grad.
  5. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    Quote from kath<3
    One thing I would add.....there is only one hospital in my area that still hires LPN's and AN's. The rest of the hospitals require at least a BSN. Watching some of the people I know going back to school because they are stuck where they are is another reason I am glad I chose the BSN. I got into nursing to be a nurse.....not for the income, however if you want to talk income I know LPN's are only making a little over what a tech makes and a lot less than what I make. In order to bring home a good salary a LPN would have to work some hellacious over time....which is something I really do not want to do....it would make me miserable and not a very good nurse.
    I think both of your observations are about hospitals. Hospitals ay poorly for LPN/LVN's. Even if they were hiring it wouldn't be worth it for me. So the fact that hospitals are phasing LVN's out shouldn't mean one darn thing. Most of the good LVN's I know are going where the money is. Home health, hospice, clinics etc. I don't think that you "know" LPN's are making what a tech makes unless your referring to hospitals only.
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  6. Visit  kellycinalli profile page
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    I have been a nurse(Lpn) for 18 years and at my current job for 15 years. I live in new jersey and what I am aloud to do is virtually everything. I can give and read ppd's. Change picc line dressings as well hang iv'a and maintain all types of catheters as well start a peripheral line We do our own assessments when new admits come, the orders and care plans for these admits. I have 16-17 patients a piece. Do the Meds and treatments. Implement orders with the doctor and go over the labs. We do hospice care and specialize in wound care ESP wound vacs. We r a teaching facility: wound teaching, dm teaching, feeding tubes, trachs and colostomys. Most of my patients are of high acuity. I am also responsible and supervise the aides. There is nothing we can't do besides: hang blood and chemo. I've even replaced peg tubes and peritoneal dialysis and removed trachs. I am a very confident nurse and know that I didn't just go into nursing for the money but experience and the love of what I do!!

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  7. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Quote from kath<3
    I got into nursing to be a nurse.....not for the income, however if you want to talk income I know LPN's are only making a little over what a tech makes and a lot less than what I make.
    My last LPN pay rate in 2010 was $27.04 hourly, which adds up to $55,000 annually without one single hour of overtime worked. By the way, I reside in a lower cost-of-living city in Texas.

    Although I am relieved to now be an RN, my LPN license and experience provided me with the foundation, income, lifestyle, and springboard for my future in nursing.
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  8. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    Yup as a nursing professor once told me there are worst things to be while your working your way through RN school than being a LVN and it's true I've been able to take time off on my educational journey without being stressed about making ends meet. If I fall sick again then I'll land on my LVN butt not with a minimum wage aide job.
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  9. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    It goes without saying that, overall, RNs make more than LPNs. But people would be surprised how much a LPN can make in certain facilities. If (when) I become a RN, I'm almost certain to take a pay cut since I'd be considered a "new grad" as my years as a LPN don't count as nursing experience most places. Really puts a damper on the motivation to go through nursing school all over again....
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  10. Visit  UpstateNyDollCna profile page
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    I'm a CNA and for the past 2 years,I have been in and out of college and jumping from one major to the other because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do,I wasn't completely happy with any major. I just knew that everyone was expecting me to go to college. I jumped from going for my RN to wanting to get a grad degree in OT,to accounting but always in the back of my head I was thinking of becoming an LPN. I applied and was accepted to a tech school for LPN but because of personal issues,I dropped out. I am too late to apply for the September 2012 classes,but I plan to apply to some tech schools near by who offer LPN for their September 2013 class. I'll be 25 next month,and I'm tired of going to college when it's obvious I'm not happy there. In the future maybe I'll go back to get my BSN but for now I'm just focusing on getting my LPN.
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  11. Visit  nursecolleen profile page
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    I focused on earnings in my quick little blurb, however, that is certainly not why I became a LPN. I don't feel superior to anyone especially my FRIENDS with Master's degrees. They are the ones that comment about what a waste their degrees have been as they can't find jobs in their fields. One is working as a records clerk for $12/hr. Do I feel superior? Hell no. Do I feel that I made the right choice for me? Absolutely. I am almost done with my RN program. The education I received as a LPN was well worth it as I am having no trouble passing the courses as it is information that I already know. I was working 12s when I made $69k but got hired at a high rate because they were having a hard time filling the position. I wasnt bragging, just making a point (maybe not very well albeit). Best wishes.
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  12. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Yup as a nursing professor once told me there are worst things to be while your working your way through RN school than being a LVN and it's true I've been able to take time off on my educational journey without being stressed about making ends meet. If I fall sick again then I'll land on my LVN butt not with a minimum wage aide job.
    Click on the link below if you wish to read about a young lady who accrued nearly $100,000 in student loan debt to earn a degree in women's and religious studies. She now works a lower-end job as a photography assistant and has monthly student loan payments of $700+.

    I'm assured that this woman now has a broadened worldview and extensive knowledge combined with the ability to engage in critical thought due to her education at a prestigious university, but she states in the article that she would gladly give it all back if she could.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/yo...oney.html?_r=1
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  13. Visit  Shinnichi profile page
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    This makes me wonder....

    I'm still trying to complete the pre-reqs for the RN path. Each semester brings a new struggle with financial aid and a never-ending road of delays. I looked up the pre-req requirements for the LPN path and honestly I'm just as close to qualifying for that program as I am for the RN. The LPN program isn't as long as the RN program,... just makes me wonder :/ ....


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