sick time

  1. Just curious about how other institutions handle sick time. The hospital I work at has just instituted a new policy regarding sick time. The acceptible maximum amount of sick calls,for full time staff, is a total of 8 shifts which may be broken up into a total of 4 incidents. If you have less sick time you will be given a letter of comendation at the end of the year. If your sick time is excess of the acceptable average, a meeting with the nurse manager and employee health will ensue, to discuss ways to decrease sick time. If you have no sick days in a year the reward is a special tea and a pin. Big Whoop! I have heard other hospitals have monetary rewards, extra vacation or draws for no sick time.
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  3. by   kewlnurse
    I got a rock.
  4. by   donmurray
    UK policies vary, but our hospital Trust operates a 9 shifts/3 episodes in a rolling year system, which qualifies you for an interview with your line manager. It is supposed to be supportive rather than punitive, but there are no rewards for non absence.
  5. by   Rottie1
    I am also wanting to see how other hospitals handle sick and vacation time. We are wanting to bring this up to our board of managers, and I was hoping to gather some info from other parts of the country. We don't actually get and "sick days" we get an "extended illness balance" (EIB) which is accumulated at a very minimal rate and the policy actually states that you cannot get paid from you EIB until you have been out sick for more than 6 consecutive calender days. You would get paid from the EIB starting the 7th day of your illness. Does this sounds like we are being taken advantage of? And how are holidays paid? We aquire paid time off (PTO) as we work. something like 7 hours per 80 hour work period. And if we are not scheduled on the holiday the take 8 hours of our PTO. Again does that sound right? How are other facilities managing the PTO and sick time?
  6. by   Fiona59
    Our hospital has those wonderful posters up saying if you're under the weather don't come in. I've been told the 8th sick day brings you a letter from HR and a chat. Anything over two days requires a doctors note.
  7. by   NotReady4PrimeTime
    Quote from Fiona59
    Our hospital has those wonderful posters up saying if you're under the weather don't come in. I've been told the 8th sick day brings you a letter from HR and a chat. Anything over two days requires a doctors note.
    Those signs you're describing are aimed at visitors and very clearly make that point. Have you ever been tempted like I have to whip out a sharpie and write on 'em "Staff, however, are expected to show up as usual."?

    On our unit it doesn't take 8 sick days for the letter and chat... it takes more than 3 separate incidents of even a single shift in a year, or a single incident of more than 3 shifts' duration. HELLO!! We work with SICK PEOPLE!! We work SHORT!! We're getting OLD!! But we're not allowed to be sick. Nice. I have enough time in my sick bank to be off for 20 twelve hour shifts. For me, that's the same as 9 weeks! Too bad I can't take the pay.
    Last edit by NotReady4PrimeTime on Jan 30, '08
  8. by   RGN1
    [quote=janfrn;2632035]Those signs you're describing are aimed at visitors and very clearly make that point. Have you ever been tempted like I have to whip out a sharpie and write on 'em "Staff, however, are expected to show up as usual."? quote]

  9. by   pepperann35
    The sick time we don't use is paid out to us at the end of every December. Can be up to $3,000 if you don't use any all year. It is hard on staff when people call off all the time. We can have up to 9 occurances in a rolling 12 month cycle. I think that's too many and I know nurses who really abuse that. By the way, I love the "I gotta rock" response---too funny!
  10. by   NotReady4PrimeTime
    The sick time we don't use is just gone. I know a part-time nurse who calculates the exact moment she's accumulated enough hours for a sick day, and then she's sick. She never has any "extra" time hanging around in her sick bank. Me, I wasn't raised that way.
  11. by   Fiona59
    Hey that nurse works on MY unit.
  12. by   NotReady4PrimeTime
    Quote from Fiona59
    Hey that nurse works on MY unit.
    I'm convinced that there are lots of nurses like that out there. Another of our nurses racks up huge overtime, then calls in sick on her straight time shifts. When you do stuff like that often enough that other poeple are noticing, shame on you!
  13. by   Fiona59
    It seems that the same issues are rising up at both our worksites. Maybe it's time for our contracts to start paying out for unused sick time when we leave or reach a certain number of hours?

    The part time PNs lost all chances for OT apart from the alternate weekends off clause. But we see which RNs are using it to the maximum effect.
  14. by   leosrain
    Quote from janfrn
    Those signs you're describing are aimed at visitors and very clearly make that point. Have you ever been tempted like I have to whip out a sharpie and write on 'em "Staff, however, are expected to show up as usual."?

    On our unit it doesn't take 8 sick days for the letter and chat... it takes more than 3 separate incidents of even a single shift in a year, or a single incident of more than 3 shifts' duration. HELLO!! We work with SICK PEOPLE!! We work SHORT!! We're getting OLD!! But we're not allowed to be sick. Nice. I have enough time in my sick bank to be off for 20 twelve hour shifts. For me, that's the same as 9 weeks! Too bad I can't take the pay.
    Hi Jan! Knowing that we work in the same province and therefore contract, this surprises me. I have to admit that I don't know the rules regarding sick days, but nobody is every punished on my unit for sick calls.

    I called in sick seven times last year on three different incidents...and as a result felt SO guilty. I was sure I would be talked to, but nobody said a word.

    I think the Calgary Health Region is SO short-staffed that they're afraid to say anything. There's a general attitude these days of "do what you will, I'll just go work on a different unit." The units need nurses more than the nurses need the unit. We have almost TOO much power....

    I just wish we would actually use it to affect some positive change!!! I'm still waiting for mandated nurse/patient rations like California. Don't worry, my breath isn't being held...

    Sean
    Last edit by leosrain on Feb 1, '08

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