Cursing in LTC
- 0Aug 31, '12 by wecan11Have a question. Have a friend that's just been suspended pending investigation because she responded to a residents cursing and repeated the curse back once. Other residents heard it and she has been suspended for next several days. My question is what will happen to her? Will she lose her license over this? Is it likely she'll lose her job. She is really distraught over this. She has been on the receiving end of many, many curse words and she repeats one and she is history..?
- 3Aug 31, '12 by TheCommuter, ASN, RN Senior ModeratorThe membership at Allnurses.com cannot determine what will happen to your friend.
LTC staff members cannot curse, swear, or verbally berate residents, even if the residents are being vulgar and yelling profanities at the staff. It is up to the professional to maintain composure and avoid stooping to the profane resident's level.
- 0Aug 31, '12 by TheCommuter, ASN, RN Senior ModeratorQuote from wecan11I will reiterate that the membership at Allnurses.com cannot determine what will happen to your friend. I wish her the best of luck.My friend works in Ks and I'm not familiar with what their State Nursing Home agency discipline guidelines are. Is it likely she will she lose her license, get some type of discipline..?
- 0Sep 1, '12 by SE_BSN_RNWell, I personally think that is a little over the top, but I agree with Commuter. We can't say what's going to happen. The most that may happen is she'll be fired for abuse. I doubt she will lose her license. No one knows but those looking over the case. My question is, why would she repeat the word in the first place? Why use profanity around a resident at all? There's no need to repeat something she heard, right?
- 1Sep 1, '12 by VivaLasViejas, ASN, RN GuideI think a lot depends on which curse word was used, and the context in which it was used. If the nurse was responding in kind to something like "Eff you", that is entirely inappropriate and she should at least receive a written warning. However, if the resident was teasing and she parroted back the curse word, that's another kettle of fish entirely and a verbal reminder about language should suffice.
Of course, I wasn't there and thus don't know
the context, so I echo the other posters in saying that we really can't advise you or make an intelligent guess as to what the management will do in this case. It does seem a bit over-the-top to suspend someone for single curse word, but again, it all depends on context.
Personally, I've cussed in front of a resident before, but only when I knew the resident didn't mind it. Even so, I've never used foul language, only the occasional "damn" or "oh crap" if I do something irritating, like drop an armload of clean linens on the floor.
- 3Sep 2, '12 by BrandonLPNThere's a huge difference between swearing "in front of" a resident and swearing "at" a resident. Also what's considered a swear word can be subjective. I don't consider "hell" or "damn" to be cussing. And I know I've muttered "oh, sh**!" a few times when I drop a pill or something. Sometimes stuff like that just slips out. A manager who punishes someone for something like that is a manger who has too much time on his hands, IMO. Obviously, telling a resident to "eff off" would be a whole different story.
- 1Sep 2, '12 by CapeCodMermaid, RNIt's not about whether YOU consider it a swear word. It's whether the resident does. Certainly saying "oh sh**" if you drop a pill is far different than cursing at the resident, but we need to remember, we are in THEIR home and they're old. My grandmother thought the word "cripes" was too vulgar to say in public.