Anyone out there that just wants to work? - page 3

Are there any nurses that just want to do their job? No fuss No muss Just leave me alone to work, work ,work! No kidding I want a job where the aides don't think they are nurses, give meds w/o... Read More

  1. by   lpnga
    I am not here trying to get people not to like me or to ignore me but I am here to post an OPINION...The original post was

    "Are there any nurses that just want to do their job? No fuss No muss Just leave me alone to work, work ,work!
    No kidding I want a job where the aides don't think they are nurses, give meds w/o dr orders, get ua's w/o authorization, etc.
    Any such animal in Oregon? "

    Where I live aides can do these things...if they are trained...KEY WORD TRAINED.....at work I don't act like I know more then the nurses. At the place I work there is one RN to 60 pts...we have two RNs and 4 halls of 30+ people on each hall and two aides per hall...so I have 15 pts myself and I get to know them and their families more then the RNs but sometimes the RNs come and get them ready and help with ADL ...sometimes....I don't have to get orders from an RN..I get one side of the hall and the other aide gets the other side..I have had the whole hall in one day to myself....I get them ready..feed them...change them..turn them...give meds...do caths...clean caths....do iv's....change o2...and everything...I have had an advanced CNA class...I am not mad at the RNs and LPNs for being paid better or having higher education because I am in school for my RN..

    As for the man who was not a nurse...I don't admire him someone posted i should chose a hero wisely...I did not say he was a hero..just that just because you don't have the education does not mean your not as smart as the Rn....that's it...I think he should have gone on to school but he was smarter then most of the nurses who had the degree...and he is in jail....

    sometimes the RN doesn't know anything about the pts and if the nurse took the time while assisting the pt then they would know a little about the pt and could get them to do things...while giving the pt meds etc they could ask about the pictues on the wall or their life ..something to make the pt talk and then the pt will allow the RN to do things....

    also as for the orginal post I don't do things unless a doc..says..but if the doc..as giving authorization..then I can..

    Again I am not here to get people to hate me or dislike me...I love this chat board and would hate to quit using it but I am posting my opinion...and MISHLB the two of us know we don't get along and disagree on everything...and you posted

    And you wonder why we get annoyed with you???

    i get annoyed with you as wel.... and your post
    Remember that song by Madonna..."Borderline"? Nuff said.

    uncalled for.... and yes I know that aides act as if they know everything...blah blah blah.....but I am not one of them..i will repeat...I have been trained to do what i do and do it for a reason..but I get tired of people thinking because the have a higher degree that they are better and they know more when SOME don't...ok some nurses act like a doc..but their not..
  2. by   lpnga
    also I am not mad about the money because I make very well.....so no problem there..that is not a reason to be pissed at anyone..i am working on my degree and will be paid better then but for now it's working..
  3. by   Stargazer
    Originally posted by lpnga
    Where I live aides can do these things...if they are trained...KEY WORD TRAINED.....I get them ready..feed them...change them..turn them...give meds...do caths...clean caths....do iv's....change o2...and everything...I have had an advanced CNA class...I am not mad at the RNs and LPNs for being paid better or having higher education because I am in school for my RN..
    Are there states where CNAs are licensed to do IVs?
  4. by   MishlB
    I have NEVER heard of a CNA doing IV's....so basically you're telling us you care for 15-30 patients...giving meds, doing IV's, turning, bathing, feeding...all by yourself?? Do you also walk on water?
  5. by   lpnga
    yes...I have anywhere from15-20 pts (depending on which hall I work) and I do everything...we only have one rn to two halls..i do meds as long as we don't have an lpn on our hall that night..do you all have pct 1 2 and 3? A PCT 1 is a CNA and if you train you move up to 2 and 3. I have a friend who works at an area hospital and she is a PCT 3 but they have just listed her as a Medical Assistant and she reads EKGs and EEGs and does ivs, caths, draws blood, etc....
  6. by   lpnga
    mishlb

    what's your deal..
  7. by   MishlB
    If you're a medical assistant, you're a medical assistant. If you're a CNA, you're a CNA. That's my deal. Reading EKG's and EEG's? Come on lpnga, get real. What do we need doctors for then?
  8. by   Stargazer
    If you're a medical assistant, you're a medical assistant. If you're a CNA, you're a CNA. That's my deal. Reading EKG's and EEG's? Come on lpnga, get real. What do we need doctors for then?
    Oh man, can't believe I missed that. Yes, that all seems very likely. What about radiology reads? Minor surgical procedures? Don't hold out on us!
  9. by   lpnga
    I did not say I was a medical assistant (why don't you read the post)I said a friend of mine was listed as a pct 3 and they have just listed her as a medical assistant...not me....what's the deal with not understanding that they train people to do this? She has been trained to do this...
  10. by   Disablednurse
    It is very obvious that lpnga just wants to argue. I live in the south and have never heard of any such a thing as she is describing in Georgia. That is absurd. People think that the south is slow and if you believe what she writes then we should be thought slow. She needs to get a serious grip on reality.
  11. by   caroladybelle
    Originally posted by Disablednurse
    It is very obvious that lpnga just wants to argue. I live in the south and have never heard of any such a thing as she is describing in Georgia. That is absurd. People think that the south is slow and if you believe what she writes then we should be thought slow. She needs to get a serious grip on reality.
    I don't know where lpnga is in GA - but no place in GA that I have worked for in the last 8 years permitted unlicensed personnel to do meds or IVs. Heck, our CNAs at the last facility didn't even do dressing changes or accuchecks. In many places, RN students are not even permitted to start IVs until they are licensed.

    Of course, I like to work for good facilities, ones that care enough for their staff and their patients to ensure quality care.

    Please let us know where you work - I will be happy to avoid that facility. I wouldn't want to take that much risk with my license.
  12. by   lpnga
    well in northwest ga and chattanooga, tn then yes you can...do you people have pcts where you work? *Patient CAre Tech* and you will be listed as a 1 2 or 3. I went to keyword and typed in what does a pct do? and i found a website and this is what i pulled up...I am not sure what state this is for but here it is

    Patient Care Assistant Training: This 12 week program was designed with the cooperation and collaboration of the health care industry to prepare participants for entry-level, patient-care work in the acute care hospital setting. The students learn basic patient-care skills, human anatomy and physiology, basic system disease processes, medical terminology and AHA Basic Life Support training for healthcare providers. Areas covered in addition to the CNA program include: Identification of essential and critical observations to report to an RN, Pre-op and Post-operative care of surgical patients, maintenance of tubes (i.e. NG tubes, foleys, drainage tubes, etc.), bedside glucose monitoring, care of the pediatric population, and critical thinking exercises. A comprehensive skills competency checklist is completed during the program. Each participant completes 2 weeks full-time clinical internship at a local acute care hospital. Instructional methods focus on the cognitive, psychomotor, which encourages an affective domain of competent patient care.

    Moving from Care Assistant to Clinical Technician: This program is developed in cooperation with the regional health care industry to provide persons working as entry-level unlicensed assistive personnel in the hospital setting to obtain the skills necessary to advance to clinical technician. These advanced clinical skills do not require licensure by state or federal organizations. These skills include: Neurological: determine level of consciousness, management of seizures; Cardiac: performing 12 lead EKG's, application of anti-embolism measures, care of central lines; Respiratory: application of O2 therapy, airway management, suctioning, tracheostomy tube care, chest tube setup; Gastrointestinal: tube feeding maintenance; Urinary: Foley catheter insertion; Advance clinical procedures: sterile technique, wound care, specimen collection, phlebotomy, IV insertion and IV monitoring. Program includes 88 hours of classroom and laboratory practice. Participants in this program must have at least 3 months working experience as a care assistant and letter of recommendation from their supervisor prior to acceptance in to the program.

    where i live it is not called Clinical Technician it is called pct 1 2 or 3....
  13. by   CoffeeRTC
    12 Weeks Training! Only 2 weeks clinical? That is very frightening!! I'm from Pa and I don't think our LPNs are able to do half of those procedures and they are trained for 12-18 months!!
    Last edit by CoffeeRTC on Mar 11, '03

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