Why aren't there more nursing programs in your State !!!! - page 6

Everyone knows that there is a nursing shortage. However, there are not enough programs designed or catered to the people who really wants to go to school for nursing. To me there should be more... Read More

  1. by   S.T.A.C.E.Y
    Quote from manofcare
    The issue of alumni organizations is an intriguing idea. Here's some of the reasons law schools are so successful at building large war chests from alumni contributions. The graduates are very loyal and proud of their school, and are inclined to contribute to the school to futher alumni organizations.
    I think an important point about this subject is the fact that coming from the TOP nursing school is not necessarily going to put you into any better position as a nurse who came from a small never-heard-of-it community college in the middle of nowhere. Other professions rely on the name of their educating institution to give them credibility, therefore want to contribute $$ to ensure their school maintains that reputation. If I went to Law School, I would definitely want to make sure that the school had a good reputation & would likely want to contribute to make sure that well-renowned name continued. As for nursing school.....does it really matter where you went to school? Yes, I know its a selfish thought, but will contributing to the alumni association of your school really make any difference in your career? I don't see myself being a contributor to my alumni association, as there are other NGOs/Organizations that I feel could make a far bigger difference to students...
  2. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from manofcare
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    Here is the issue with nursing that I have seen so far. It seems to me that there is an almost confrontational relationship between a large number of the students and the faculty. My opinion only. I try to stay under the radar on these conflicts. If the faculty is despised by the graduates, you can bet they are not going to contribute to an alumni organization. ....
    Therin lies the cux of the problem. You can even see it here on allnurses. How many times do you hear how mean certain professors were. it almost seems to be a nursing school refrain we get the sheet music to and learn to sing just as we start first semester clinicals.

    True, it may be that some have an entitlement mentality, bad attitude or poor study skills they blame on the teacher as I don't the majority of nursing instructors are this lacking in interpersonal skills. Still its hard to give money to a place when everyone from the registrar to the Dean to the chit in the bookstore gave you an hard time.

    Quote from Freedom42
    Manofcare, I agree: There does seem to be a lot of friction between students and faculty, depending on the institution, at least as expressed on this board. That's not the case at my school. One of the reasons that we're talking about becoming active in the political arena as student nurses is because we've been so inspired by a couple of instructors whose only agenda is improving conditions at school and at work. They're fantastic (and grossly underpaid).
    Yes, they are not all dragons and your post proves it. Folks who've had a postive experiences like yours are much more likely to contribute to an alumni fund.
    Is anyone interested in starting a student nurse activism thread? (Or is there one already that I've missed?) I'd love to keep this discussion going and find out what's happening on other campuses.
    Count me in! It is HIGH time that studnet nurses get toghether for the future of the profession

    *Sunny pulls out her placards to start making protest posters*
  3. by   Freedom42
    OK! I've started a thread called Student Nurse Activists. It's under the General Student Nurse Discussion. I've put up a question to get the ball rolling -- but if someone's got a better topic, I'm all for it.

    Hopefully I'll see Sunnyjohn, her protest signs and the rest of you boat-rockers over there.
  4. by   sunnyjohn
    Yes,

    Lets see if we can keep this ball rolling.

    I hope some of the vanguard of allnurses joins this discussion soon!
  5. by   SA2BDOCTOR
    Quote from Freedom42
    OK! I've started a thread called Student Nurse Activists. It's under the General Student Nurse Discussion. I've put up a question to get the ball rolling -- but if someone's got a better topic, I'm all for it.

    Hopefully I'll see Sunnyjohn, her protest signs and the rest of you boat-rockers over there.

    I will be more than pleased to join this thread...here I come
  6. by   NeosynephRN
    I have wanted to reply on this one...but I was thinking...that takes a while LOL!!! OK I am in an evening weekend program...we are going to be the second class to graduate from it at our school. When we signed up and went on the wait list it was advertised as a great alternative for parents and people that were wanting to make a carrer change and had to work full time...Well needless to say our school realized to late that they had gotten in WAY over thier heads. They cannot find clinical instructors that want to get paid crappy money and be in class every weekend...the teachers that we have had are all breand new and they have really sucked...mostly...well the problem here is that we are a class full of ADULTS...no one under the age of 25 in class... most people have a Bachelors degree or higher and are going back to school. So we do not take crap from the administrators...we fight for our rights that were "advertised" to us and now we have a reputation for being a "mean" class...I do not see that we are standing up for ourselves and by the way getting our way!! I would not give a dime to this school after I am done...I have been way to screwed for way to long with them...it is one battle after another...so I can absolutely see why people do not donate money or time to help these schools!!
  7. by   SA2BDOCTOR
    Quote from calla2114
    I have wanted to reply on this one...but I was thinking...that takes a while LOL!!! OK I am in an evening weekend program...we are going to be the second class to graduate from it at our school. When we signed up and went on the wait list it was advertised as a great alternative for parents and people that were wanting to make a carrer change and had to work full time...Well needless to say our school realized to late that they had gotten in WAY over thier heads. They cannot find clinical instructors that want to get paid crappy money and be in class every weekend...the teachers that we have had are all breand new and they have really sucked...mostly...well the problem here is that we are a class full of ADULTS...no one under the age of 25 in class... most people have a Bachelors degree or higher and are going back to school. So we do not take crap from the administrators...we fight for our rights that were "advertised" to us and now we have a reputation for being a "mean" class...I do not see that we are standing up for ourselves and by the way getting our way!! I would not give a dime to this school after I am done...I have been way to screwed for way to long with them...it is one battle after another...so I can absolutely see why people do not donate money or time to help these schools!!

    You made some strong points!!! Well I think first of all that the school was trying to accomodate a different crowd with the weekend program. Like you said they just did not think it through. You all meaning (The mean class) is setting a precendence for the other classes and the administration and I think that is a good thing. That will only make the adminstration better!

    I think you were kinda tough on your last statement..I will still donate to schools if I had the finances. After all it is not about them, but about the overall program.
  8. by   sunnyjohn
    Maybe this is a long shot, but why can't be establish an allnurses scholarship?

    We already have tons of folks on this board we know are progressive and all about advancing the profession. Besides I trust the folks here and hey would probably know how to get sponsors to give donations for an allnurses foundation or scholarship.
  9. by   NeosynephRN
    Quote from SA2BDOCTOR

    I think you were kinda tough on your last statement..I will still donate to schools if I had the finances. After all it is not about them, but about the overall program.
    I re read my post and I see where you are coming from on that statement! I would not donate money to this particular nursing program, unless the money was going to make the changes that NEED to be made!! I would donate to the schools EMS education..as this is the same school I went to for that and had a great experience and recieved a great education!!
  10. by   sunnyjohn
    The problem is I think so many people think they need to donate thousands of dollars to make a real difference.

    Think about it. How many times in nursing school would you have been thrilled if someone gave you $100 to buy a book or a gift certificate for Danskos or a Walmart card to buy groceries.

    When it comes to paying for education pennies count.
    Last edit by sunnyjohn on Jan 4, '07
  11. by   sunnyjohn
    I have a proposal.

    Lets us all put in $1 or so to buy some new deserving student on this board a nursing textbook. We can get a gift cert. from Amazon or have them tell us which book.
  12. by   SA2BDOCTOR
    Quote from sunnyjohn
    I have a proposal.

    Lets us all put in $1 or so to buy some new deserving student on this board a nursing textbook. We can get a gift cert. from Amazon or have them tell us which book.

    I think that is a mighty fine idea! count me in.....
  13. by   SA2BDOCTOR
    Quote from sunnyjohn
    The problem is I think so many people think they need to donate thousands of dollars to amke a real difference.

    Think about it. How many times in nursing school would you have been thrilled if someone gave you $100 to buy a book or a gift certificate for Danskos or a Walmart card to buy groceries.

    When it comes to paying for education pennies count.

    You know what you are so right. I can associate with that. You made an EXCELLENT point!!!!!!!

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