Was I being mean-by not handing over all my notes??????

MB37 · Mar 2, 2008

Similar situation...we have a girl who got special permission to transfer into our clinical group. She's often late to clinical, and per policy she shouldn't pass - not sure if she will or not, not my business. She has her own friends, I imagine, since she doesn't hang out with the rest of us in the group. I make really good study guides for each exam, and I send them out to the clinical group. They're based largely on the class notes, but I supplement from the book. 4 of us are straight A students - extremely rare in my school - and on the whole we were told by our CI that we have the highest grades in the program. Nice to know, we're trying not to be too competitive. Point is, we all go to class every single day unless deathyl ill, we're always early to everything, we're the big nerds in the program.

This other girl is never in class. If she is in class, she waltzes in 30+ minutes late, and has the nerve to then raise her hand and ask questions. It's disruptive, and takes away from my time. She says she still pulls Bs and Cs, good for her - she must actually be smart. She usually has an excuse for why she missed, and I'm sorry she's a single mom, but it's not MY fault. I chose to delay having children until after I graduate. The other parents are there every single day with the rest of us. Well, she asked me for my study guide when she saw someone else using it. I "forgot" to send it to her, and she asked me 3 more times. She somehow acquired my long-distance cell phone number, and she's even had the nerve to call me and ask for it. I sent it to her that time, and the next time too. Thing is, it makes me feel used. She will never be able to return the favor, since she doesn't bother to come to class. I do believe in karma, and that you should generally help someone who needs it, but she's just lazy! Other people make it thru as single parents, and she does have family in the area who help her out. If she can't come to class, maybe she should put off school for a couple years until her kid is older.

I don't think I'm sending them to her anymore, and if I go to HE double hockey sticks for it, so be it. I can't crutch somebody through nursing school, it's not safe.

shann106 · Mar 2, 2008

I wouldn't have given her the notes. If she was a close friend, then I probably would but I have noticed in my class that once one person asks for your notes then everyone seems to think they can also ask and then you have 30 people wanting you to email them your notes. I know one girl has decided to start selling her notes because the demand became overwhelming, most people who expected her to share with them did not even know her name

shann106 · Mar 2, 2008

I keep reading that nursing school is not a competition, but I disagree. My school does everything they can to weed you out, any weakness and you are out. I do see it as a competition because even though they admitted 99 there is only about 50-60 spots for clincials, and I hear each year there is less and less spots.

Miami NightNurse · Mar 3, 2008

I don't know, I just hope you all are not like this as nurses. Because when you are nurses you need to all help each other. Although I can understand that school is a competition and I wouldn't want to share my notes with someone that is lazy either, but just please don't be like that when you are out on the floor with us. I wrote a Cardiovascular handbook to help new nurses and student nurses on my floor. I give it to everyone whether I liked them or not.

kcochrane · Mar 3, 2008

I was discussing this with one of the CNAs I work with that is now going to LPN school. She had one lady ask her for her notes, which she gladly handed over for that day. Later she found out that that lady proceeded to copy the notes and share them with a bunch of other people - without permission.

AlexisRN46, I don't think anyone here doesn't help out because they don't like someone. The same lazy people in class usually are the same ones that are still looking for someone to do their work on the floor.

excited08 · Mar 3, 2008

like i mentioned before what goes around comes around 10 fold ,please believe it . and yes u do what u want we all do what we want. i was simply giving my opinion like u asked so if u didn't want to hear you should have never asked the ?.

the fact of the matter is - we are all on allnurses to talk with one another and also at times agreeing to disagree and this is one of those times, so have a good one

Miami NightNurse · Mar 3, 2008

I was discussing this with one of the CNAs I work with that is now going to LPN school. She had one lady ask her for her notes, which she gladly handed over for that day. Later she found out that that lady proceeded to copy the notes and share them with a bunch of other people - without permission.
AlexisRN46, I don't think anyone here doesn't help out because they don't like someone. The same lazy people in class usually are the same ones that are still looking for someone to do their work on the floor.

I agree with you kcochrane. I agree with you too excited08 on your post before the last one-Good for all of you. We need all the nurses we can get out there.

kcochrane · Mar 3, 2008

I don't know, I just hope you all are not like this as nurses. Because when you are nurses you need to all help each other. Although I can understand that school is a competition and I wouldn't want to share my notes with someone that is lazy either, but just please don't be like that when you are out on the floor with us. I wrote a Cardiovascular handbook to help new nurses and student nurses on my floor. I give it to everyone whether I liked them or not.

I forgot to add that you must be an awesome nurse to work with. Wouldn't it utopia (or close to it) to work on a unit where everyone is a team player and works to help each other? :wink2:

Miami NightNurse · Mar 3, 2008

Where I work it is that way. I work with a bunch of great nurses. Although we all have days just like you would in any family where we may bicker. We run off the lazy nurses and the non team players.

future L&Dnurse · Mar 3, 2008

I don't know, I just hope you all are not like this as nurses. Because when you are nurses you need to all help each other. Although I can understand that school is a competition and I wouldn't want to share my notes with someone that is lazy either, but just please don't be like that when you are out on the floor with us. I wrote a Cardiovascular handbook to help new nurses and student nurses on my floor. I give it to everyone whether I liked them or not.

I would hope/expect that people who manage to pass the NCLEX and get a job as a nurse probably generally have their stuff together and aren't going to be relying on other people to do their job for them, right? I am only going by what I've seen as an intern and as a student but I do see that nurses help each other a lot, but I've never met one who expected everybody else to just do the hard work for them. Do those kinds of nurses actually exist? And do the others really not mind covering for them over and over? I'm not being snarky, I honestly want to know, because I have *never* met a nurse like that, on all the floors and units I've worked in. It looks like everybody works pretty hard! It's messing with my worldview to think that people who skate by on other people's hard work can actually still keep a job in a career like nursing. :eek:

Miami NightNurse · Mar 3, 2008

Yes they do exist, although they don't make it on my floor. And no you shouldn't do someones work while they sit there and do nothing. But we do all work together and help each. And passing nclex-you have only just begun you will need alot of help, not people to do your work for you but to help you do it and to help you learn

excited08 · Mar 3, 2008

i totally agree with u by helping one out doesn't mean that they are going to be a lazy nurse skating by while the other nurses do their work because that is just not possible and truthfully i've never seen nurses skating by while everyone else is doing their work