Vent: Irritating classmates - page 3

I've had to put up with the same obnoxious people for 2 quarters now. I swear, they're following me! :chuckle In my A&P class there are 3 gals who get on absolutely everyone's nerves. They're... Read More

  1. by   gerry79
    Yes one may be judged superior based on their looks, but their actions, or lack there of, can/will betray them if their looks are all they have.
  2. by   hopefully
    Quote from gerry79
    Yes one may be judged superior based on their looks, but their actions, or lack there of, can/will betray them if their looks are all they have.
    Just to note, I got an AS degree in Pharmacy Technology in June 2003. Out of the 28 people who were in my class, four females got a 4.0 grade point avearge. The two who got a 4.0 was the best looking females in class and they had the best personaility. I catorgrized them as "high maintanence." The females that were more plain and the ones that were not that stylish could not compete with them academically.
    Last edit by hopefully on Mar 11, '04
  3. by   hobbes
    Quote from hopefully
    I do not think high maintenance people or some gal that looks like someone from a cover of a cosmopolitian magazine is fueling any type of negative female sterotypes. Females have their own character and personalities.

    Anyway, if you are good looking, then that will make your life easier. Also, good looking people are percieved to be smarter. That is based on accurate psy. analyst. If you are a good looking nurse, people will tend to look up to you.
    Although I agree in general that attractive people tend to get by a lot easier than the rest of us I draw the line at assuming they are smarter. To the contrary, I believe the popular notion esp. with regards to attractive women that have achieved, is that their intelligence is discounted and the tacit assumption is that they got where they are at least partially based on their looks. I'd like to see the so called psychological analysis that concludes beauty/attractiveness implies intelligence.
  4. by   meownsmile
    PHHHHTTTT!!!! These gals wont make it into the medical field. Flirting with instructors/bosses/whatever is their goal,, and that is it. Go on with your classes,, use them for the entertainment, figure they will probly get the grade they "deserve" but it wont do them a bit of good in the long run anyway. They probly go straight to the bars after class(hence the playing dressup) and thats probly where they will be found in 10 years.
    If there is a learning disturbance with them in class then it is up to you to discuss it with the instructor(whom probly doesnt enjoy their disruptions either), and if you get nowhere then take it to the department head. Like someone else said,, its your buck!
  5. by   WalkingInTheRain
    Just try to hang in their people will do what they do no matter what. Just try to keep your focus on something else maybe when there getting on your nerves. Hope it gets better for you.
  6. by   LeesieBug
    Quote from hopefully
    I do not think high maintenance people or some gal that looks like someone from a cover of a cosmopolitian magazine is fueling any type of negative female sterotypes. Females have their own character and personalities.

    Anyway, if you are good looking, then that will make your life easier. Also, good looking people are percieved to be smarter. That is based on accurate psy. analyst. If you are a good looking nurse, people will tend to look up to you.

    I am referring to behavior, not a person's physical attractiveness. My post was in response to another post mentioning a student who did not want to enter an attractive clients room until she got her lip gloss on! THAT type of ridiculous behavior is what fuels the negative stereotype.
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from hopefully
    Anyway, if you are good looking, then that will make your life easier.

    Ah did not know this. Being uglier than homemade sin must have kept me out of the easy loop lol.
  8. by   hopefully
    Quote from hobbes
    Although I agree in general that attractive people tend to get by a lot easier than the rest of us I draw the line at assuming they are smarter. To the contrary, I believe the popular notion esp. with regards to attractive women that have achieved, is that their intelligence is discounted and the tacit assumption is that they got where they are at least partially based on their looks. I'd like to see the so called psychological analysis that concludes beauty/attractiveness implies intelligence.
    Here is website from a university. It is talking and showing that beatiful people are precieved better. It has pictures:

    http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakulta...ahrnehmung.htm

    Anyway, the notion that beautiful people are just better, that conception is thorough out are society. Would you like an ugly person caring for you?
  9. by   LeesieBug
    Would you like an ugly person caring for you?



    Are you serious???????? You can't be serious.
  10. by   hopefully
    Quote from LeesieBug


    Are you serious???????? You can't be serious.
    Okay, I know I should have not said that. That was uncalled for. But you know, plain or ugly people can be attractive. It depends on their personality and how they view and do things. No one would like an ugly and bitter person with them and that includes what goes on outside of the working world.
  11. by   hobbes
    Quote from hopefully
    Would you like an ugly person caring for you?
    Hmmmm...let me think about that? Assuming that this hypothetical ugly person was competent and empathetic I really wouldn't care what she looked like. It's not like I'm going to ask her to have my children or introduce him to my daughter - good grief. With people still thinking like this it's no wonder we are still struggling to overcome predjudices.
  12. by   emily_rn_03
    Quote from hopefully
    Here is website from a university. It is talking and showing that beatiful people are precieved better. It has pictures:

    http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakulta...ahrnehmung.htm

    Anyway, the notion that beautiful people are just better, that conception is thorough out are society. Would you like an ugly person caring for you?

    I decided to look at this "study" and it's actually written in German.. I can't interpret the German language so I don't know if it can be very accountable. That study could be for modeling for all we know and not related to the health field. Along with many other people on this board, good nursing (or any other occupation) has nothing to do with looks, good or bad. As long as they are smart, competent, and empathetic they will succeed. It is so dated for anyone to say that you have to be good looking to be successful. With attitudes like that, we wonder why some people have low self-esteem.
  13. by   hopefully
    Quote from emily_rn_03
    i decided to look at this "study" and it's actually written in german.. i can't interpret the german language so i don't know if it can be very accountable. that study could be for modeling for all we know and not related to the health field. along with many other people on this board, good nursing (or any other occupation) has nothing to do with looks, good or bad. as long as they are smart, competent, and empathetic they will succeed. it is so dated for anyone to say that you have to be good looking to be successful. with attitudes like that, we wonder why some people have low self-esteem.
    i did not like the first post because the orginal first message poster wanted everyone to be a "plain jane" in class!

    anyway, look at this research done by crediable sources about sucess in the work place and being beautiful:

    http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/i...ures/feng.html

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#3366cc]the halo effect

    research shows attractive people also have more occupational success and more dating experience than their unattractive counterparts.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]in society, attractive people tend to be more intelligent, better adjusted, and more popular. this is described as the halo effect - due to the perfection associated with angels. research shows attractive people also have more occupational success and more dating experience than their unattractive counterparts. one theory behind this halo effect is that it is accurate -- attractive people are indeed more successful.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif].
    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]an alternative explanation for attractive people achieving more in life is that we automatically categorize others before having an opportunity to evaluate their personalities, based on cultural stereotypes which say attractive people must be intrinsically good, and ugly people must be inherently bad. but elliot aronson, a social psychologist at stanford university, believes self-fulfilling prophecies - in which a person't confident self-perception, further perpetuated by healthy feedback from others - may play a role in success as well. aronson suggests, based on the self-fulfilling prophecy that people who feel they are attractive - though not necessarily rated as such - are just as successful as their counterparts who are judged to be good-looking.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]whatever the reason, the notion that attractiveness correlates with success still rings true. yet beauty is not always advantageous, for beautiful people, particularly attractive women, tend to be perceived as more materialistic, snobbish, and vain.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]for better or worse, the bottom line is that research shows beauty matters; it pervades society and affects how we choose loved ones. thus, striving to appear attractive may not be such a vain endeavor after all. this isn't to say plastic surgery is necessarily the answer. instead, lead a healthy lifestyle that will in turn make you a happier person[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif].
    Last edit by hopefully on Mar 12, '04

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