Nursing School has it all wrong.

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I entered nursing school with a certain level of excitement, only to find that the course work is in some ways a complete waste of time. There is no need to ever learn about nursing theorists. Issues and trends is also somewhat of a joke. I am currently taking a research class in a BSN program. Why? So much time is wasted on these courses and little time is discussed about actual science. I am tired of learning about therapeutic communication. Since when is it o.k. to be programmed to say a cookie cutter phrase of "you feel sad. tell me more about your situation". If I said half of the things they consider the appropriate response, I would be looked at by my patient as if I was out of my mind.

It is embarrassing to mention NANDA nursing dx. "Disturbed energy field", who came up with that? There needs to be an overhaul.

"nurse/nurture"???? hilarious. Precisely what is wrong. The profession needs more men. No wonder my gender gets such a bad rap in the profession. Now I know why male nurses are treated with more respect by physicians. The male nurses aren't performing massage therapy when the patient needs ativan.

....and neither are responsible female nurses......your attitude is frankly offensive......please, go to PA school and leave that slot in nursing school to someone more suited.

Look, my first degree required that we learn theory, as well. It can seem pointless when you are itching to jump into the actual meat of your profession, but these classes are part of many bachelors programs.

They make you a more well-rounded person, and elevate your thinking beyond just the technical aspects of your job.

I do understand language usage. I actually got my first degree in journalism. I was not bragging about being a second degree student. I mentioned it because it's relevant to the discussion that I have been through school once already and so I know something about bachelors programs.

And I'm not so PC that I don't get your point about how touchy we've become as a society. However, I think your use of 'tard' is offensive in a different way than the fat vs. obese example. People used to use the word 'retarded' and now it's more common to say mentally handicapped. So, if you are saying that it's okay to call someone retarded, then I won't try to debate you on that. But, when you refer to non-handicapped people as being 'tards' you are doing something different. Mental retardation is a handicap, no matter what word you use. In your context, it sounds mean and insensitive. Can you see how this is different than the debate over word usage when describing an actual person who is mentally handicapped? If not, then I give up.

Anyway, I hope that you can find a way to enjoy becoming a nurse. If not, then I wish you luck in whatever you choose.

You are speaking as if you are so unique to have another degree. I have another degree as well. My first degree was in Finance. I can assure you a theory class was not part of my program. You have yet to take a class on nursing theorists so how do you know it is of any benefit. I know many RNs who don't have a bachelors that do very well as a nurse. The reason they get their bachelors is to continue their education beyond bachelors level not to become a well rounded nurse. It is a hoop they must jump through.

I am currently in an accelerated program and will graduate shortly. I will sit back and watch you enjoy every bit of what is taught to you.

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....and neither are responsible female nurses......your attitude is frankly offensive......please, go to PA school and leave that slot in nursing school to someone more suited.

Have you ever massaged a patient a day in your life. If so, how many times?

There is an important trend happening as we speak. Many nurses are entering P.A. school as opposed to N.P. school on the basis of curriculum.

Want to know what is offensive, calling any male "nurse". It is a feminine word. If it was a male dominated profession and the word to describe the profession was masculine in nature the women would have it changed so quick. Nursing is an antiquated term and needs to be changed. It is demeaning to males in the profession and should be demeaning to females as well. Change it to practitioner and call the N.P.'s, advanced practitioners.

OP I think you have a lot of anger towards not only nursing school, but the entire profession... leaves me wondering why you are even in NS if you hate so much of it?

I highly doubt the term "nurse" or "nursing" will ever change, but for the sake of any of your future patients, I hope your ATTITUDE does.:idea:

OP I think you have a lot of anger towards not only nursing school, but the entire profession... leaves me wondering why you are even in NS if you hate so much of it?

I highly doubt the term "nurse" or "nursing" will ever change, but for the sake of any of your future patients, I hope your ATTITUDE does.:idea:

Attitude doesn't keep a patient alive, knowledge does. I hope that you know the difference between certain medications and their contraindications. Hopefully you know the patho of your patients disease so as to preserve their kidneys in the face of heart disease. Those are the real issues, not massage therapy, cultural competency, or therapeutic communication.

Trust me. I wonder everyday why I went to nursing school. That will be solved. I went to nursing school for one purpose only. That is to become a CRNA. I have now shifted my focus on a career boarded by medicine. (Physicians Assistant) Apparently so have many other nurses.

My attitude towards patients is fine. It is my attitude towards the schooling that is terrible. It is a joke. I learn more from wikipedia than any of my text books.

I feel like the OP is throwing in every "button-pusher" phrase possible to incite everybody:

obesity

ND's

"tard"

CNRA... (lol)

gender

What else did I leave off the list?

Have you ever massaged a patient a day in your life. If so, how many times?

could you please explain this comment......and nurses are not taught massage.

Specializes in LTC.

Okay OP you lost me. I first I thought this was just an average "vent" thread that alot of students come one, boy was I wrong !

OP do yourself, patients, and us nurses a favor and drop out of nursing school. You seem to really dislike nursing school and have shown a negative attitude to nursing as a whole. Personally, you need to find a new career NOT in healthcare. Go back to financing !!!

There is an important trend happening as we speak. Many nurses are entering P.A. school as opposed to N.P. school on the basis of curriculum.

Want to know what is offensive, calling any male "nurse". It is a feminine word. If it was a male dominated profession and the word to describe the profession was masculine in nature the women would have it changed so quick. Nursing is an antiquated term and needs to be changed. It is demeaning to males in the profession and should be demeaning to females as well. Change it to practitioner and call the N.P.'s, advanced practitioners.

Maybe the reason people are going to P.A. school is because of the aging baby boomer population and the shortage of family practice physicians. I myself am considering PA school but am also considering NP school because unlike a PA, in many states an NP can have their own practice, unlike a PA who does have to work under the supervision of an MD.

Forgive me if I am wrong but I believe the english language does not associate gender connotations with its words. This isn't spanish or french where you have masculine and feminine words, its english where the word is neutral in gender. I think society has associated the word nurse with women and given it a feminine connotation, but a nurse is a caregiver, point blank period.

Specializes in Infusion.

Here's a little excerpt from the Arizona School of Health Sciences Handbook for PAs

The Department advocates and values the following:

 The A. T. Still “Body/Mind/Spirit” philosophy of healing

 The development of lifelong learning practices to maintain competencies

 Adherence to medical ethics

 Respect for the diversity of patients

 Compassion and empathy toward patients

 Professionalism in attitude and demeanor

 A respect for fellow medical professionals

 A commitment of service to community

The Department educates physician assistants with a philosophy that patients come first.

We instill in students the concept of addressing the entire patient through the body, mind, and spirit. This philosophy has, at its core, the tenant that healing is more than treatment of a medical diagnosis. Our practitioners recognize the interconnection of the body (physical nature), the mind (psychological and emotional) and the spirit (spiritual and/or religious). Our graduates address the “whole patient” through competent medical treatments, application of educational and preventive strategies, psychological support, and value of the individual’s spiritual beliefs.

Maybe your best bet is to do something a little more technical and a lot less patient focused. Sure I think there is a lot of mumbo jumbo in nursing school. It is sprinkled into almost everything we learn but we also learn pathophysiology, pharmacology, what lab values mean. At my school we have to spend a few hours preparing for each patient we work with. We need to fully understand their disease processes, know all of their chronic and acute issues, know the medications they are taking and the reason for each med. We need to figure out what assessments are going to be most important and what we are looking for. I haven't given any patients therapeutic massage but have held a hand or two. I try to pay attention to small clues that a patient's condition is worsening or an undiagnosed cardiac or pulmonary issue.

I think you might want to spend some time with a PA to determine what the job actually entails because I know a couple of PAs that aren't satisfied with their lack of autonomy - you'll still be workin' for the man.

I feel like the OP is throwing in every "button-pusher" phrase possible to incite everybody:

obesity

ND's

"tard"

CNRA... (lol)

gender

What else did I leave off the list?

You forgot, he's got a prior degree in *FINANCE*

This troll scores 2/10 due to his lack of originality.

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