Noose tightening for for-profits

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Slowly but surely, the noose is tightening around the necks of the proprietary "schools." This was mentioned on NPR this morning -- the Feds are looking into the ACICS, the organization that accredits many of the proprietary schools, in the aftermath of the Corinthian mess. If the government revokes its recognition of ACICS accreditation, every school with ACICS accreditation will have 18 months to get accredited by another recognized accreditation body or lose its eligibility to receive Federal student loan money. And, since most of those "schools" are almost entirely funded by Federal student loans, that would mean any of the schools that couldn't get other accreditation would have to shut down. I really, really hope that is the outcome ...

Much at stake for ACICS, and accreditation, in upcoming federal review

The Days May Be Numbered For Corinthian Colleges' Accreditor : NPR Ed : NPR

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Specializes in ICU.

Awesome. This needs to be done.

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Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

Good. Way overdue.

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Specializes in ER.

How many for-profit schools actually exist though for RNs? Don't they still need to be accredited by the state board?

I do know there are a lot of for profits for LPN schools on top of most RN programs have an LPN program accompanying them.

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How many for-profit schools actually exist though for RNs? Don't they still need to be accredited by the state board?

There are lots of proprietary RN programs. Many of them are of v. low quality. They are approved (not accredited) by the BONs of the states in which they operate (otherwise they wouldn't be able to be in business and students wouldn't be eligible for licensure), which just means they meet the minimum standards required by the state to operate, and that approval has nothing to do with the overall quality of the school, or any of the shady business or marketing practices of the schools.

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Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.

Big accreditor of for-profit colleges could lose authority - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

While I'm truly saddened for the thousands of students duped* by these schools- I am not sad that this is happening.

*Understand that in most cases, these students have no one in their life who has ever attended college, no way of knowing the differences in accreditation and no mentor to guide them through the process. While we can talk about due diligence on the part of the student- (and we still should) -sometimes you 'don't know what you don't know'. I have personally mentored several local youth through the process of college admissions, and it is highly satisfying!

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I was wondering how the for-profit low standard institutions was going to be reined in. I never even heard of ACICS let alone they credited over 800 for profit institutions.The Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE) accredits programs that offer only master's and baccalaureate level nursing degrees. So ACICS should not effect any BSN or NP institution. Can't say the same thing for the PA schools

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The Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE) accredits programs that offer only master's and baccalaureate level nursing degrees. So ACICS should not effect any BSN or NP institution. Can't say the same thing for the PA schools

Not sure what you mean by this. The ACICS is general academic accreditation, so it is entirely different from CCNE or ACEN (which also accredits BSN programs, but not graduate programs in nursing) accreditation. There are poor quality proprietary "schools" that offer graduate programs in nursing which hold ACICS accreditation, and there are a bunch of BSN programs in schools with ACICS accreditation. There is a list of their accredited schools on their website.

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Yes, the for-profit college crash is in progress.

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Specializes in GENERAL.
How many for-profit schools actually exist though for RNs? Don't they still need to be accredited by the state board?

I do know there are a lot of for profits for LPN schools on top of most RN programs have an LPN program accompanying them.

Many schools for RNs too.

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Specializes in GENERAL.
Big accreditor of for-profit colleges could lose authority - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

While I'm truly saddened for the thousands of students duped* by these schools- I am not sad that this is happening.

*Understand that in most cases, these students have no one in their life who has ever attended college, no way of knowing the differences in accreditation and no mentor to guide them through the process. While we can talk about due diligence on the part of the student- (and we still should) -sometimes you 'don't know what you don't know'. I have personally mentored several local youth through the process of college admissions, and it is highly satisfying!

Yes meanmaryjean you are so right about not knowing what you don't know. And the modus operandi business plan of the for-profits has been predicated upon exploiting this blind spot in many of the most vulnerable of students who merely want to be the first person in their family to go to college, reinvent themselves after losing a job or simply find a way as a single parents to feed their families. Nimble masters of democratized education they are not as they go about very often turning legitimate dreams and aspirations into debt burdened nightmares.

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Breckinridge nursing schools' poor NCLEX rates put ITT Tech in peril. But the company's problems have been going on for years. In 2015, CEO Kevin Modany and former CFO Daniel Fitzpatrick were charged with fraud. The parent company, ITT Educational Services, is now being propped up by Chinese investors and federal Title IV and GI Bill funds

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