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Okay, first a little backstory: I am currently in my second semester of my local community college's ADN program. My community college is one of two nursing programs in my local area, the other one being a BSN program through an extension of a university's nursing school in my state. I chose the ADN program because of a number of reasons: cost, I would be done quicker, I would be set to begin my online rn-bsn classes right after I graduate, the program is well established and respected in my area etc. I felt like I made the right decision to attend my ADN program, but now I am beginning to think differently, which has lead me to make this thread.

I was a 4.0 student, dean's list, scholarships, you name it. Everyone who is in my program now is a star student as our program is very competitive to get into. However, ever since I began this program my grades have done nothing but drop substantially. Everyone in my class, including me, is struggling to even pass our classes. C's are the standard in my program, only TWO people managed to complete our first semester with a B, everyone else obtained a C, some barely making the grade to continue. Our program started with 30 people, we now have 8 and are barely halfway through. All of our classes are also 6+ credit hours (first semester was 9 credit hours for one class), so the grades we get highly affect our GPA. Our program is extremely disorganized and very strict. Those in the 3rd and 4th semesters say the same story, nothing changes. I've heard about 10 people are currently failing 3rd semester and may have to repeat. You may think, as I was thinking, that the difficulty of my program must mean high NCLEX pass rates, well, I looked on the board of nursing records and saw that my program had only an 86% pass rate last year. I completely understand nursing school is supposed to be challenging, time consuming, and difficult all around, but I can't help but think my school is taking it to far at the cost of its students. The BSN program in my area is a totally different story, I've talked to many people in there program recently. They have nothing but good to say from there program. Apparently, there 4th semester class has lost three (3) people, the ENTIRE program. I was told by more than a few people, that getting A' and B's in there program is commonplace, and rarely does anyone struggle to "just pass". Here's the kicker, they also had a 100% NCLEX pass rate last year. Hearing this, and knowing first hand how my own program is, I fee like I have made a wrong decision by choosing to go to my program and am now seriously contemplating dropping my program despite being nearly half way through, to apply for the BSN program and hope to see improvement in my grades and education.

I hope you all acknowledge that in no way am I complaining. I work my tail off, as does everyone else in my program. I am not bashing program either, I am simply concerned, as I know education and especially grades are important. I'd love to hear what input you all have about my situation.

Specializes in L&D.
It's just as difficult to get into the BSN program in my area as it is to get into the ADN program. All the of the programs in my area are competitive and only the star students get in either program. All I know is the facts, some people will say I am only complaining and program bashing but I know through personal experience and exploratory efforts on my and my classmates part that my program is very different from the other ones in my area. Once again, I am not program bashing, but it something amiss not on the students' end when its quite possible that every student could fail out only halfway through the program. Equally qualified candidates who attend different programs are seeing polar opposite results. I just want to know if its worth it to drop my program now and essentially delay myself an entire year to attend another program.

eh...I don't know. You should probably just stick it out. You're almost halfway there, like I said before. You've made it this far, why not just finish?

and uh...I wasn't accusing you of program bashing.

The person who knows best of what to do about this situation is yourself. You know every little detail as the audience just knows what you are telling us. I remember tht you have had similar issues the semester prior. I think you need to just take sometime and think about what would benefit you most, go with it, and don't look back. You probably look like pondering Dante right now.

The person who knows best of what to do about this situation is yourself. You know every little detail as the audience just knows what you are telling us. I remember tht you have had similar issues the semester prior. I think you need to just take sometime and think about what would benefit you most, go with it, and don't look back. You probably look like pondering Dante right now.

Yeah I first brought up the issue last semester when near everyone in our class made out with a C in a 9 credit hour class. I stuck it out then, but now that history is repeating itself (now even worse), and from what I have gathered it does not get any better in the semester ahead, I am begin to really rethink my decision because on top of it all I have also gathered more first hand information about how the other programs in my area are working out for its students.

Specializes in FNP, ONP.

How many of your credits would you lose if you transferred? If it is not significant. I'd transfer. The primary concern for you during pre-licensure education should be preparation for passing NCLEX. It seem the choice there is clear. If you are certain that you want to pursue graduate level education also, you know that you need a BSN, and you know that you need a strong GPA to be competitive. That, too, makes your choice clear (at least to me). I see no compelling reason to stay in your current unpleasant situation.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

I think it would be wise to transfer - but before you leave your current program, talk to the BSN program people about how their admissions department views people who have been in a nursing program. I know schools frequently ask about that so I assume it could matter. It may not hurt you, in fact it may help that you are one of the 8 people still there because they probably know what the program is like (although they are unlikely to say so for the same reasons you are concerned about talking about it) but better to find out ahead of time.

How many of your credits would you lose if you transferred? If it is not significant. I'd transfer. The primary concern for you during pre-licensure education should be preparation for passing NCLEX. It seem the choice there is clear. If you are certain that you want to pursue graduate level education also, you know that you need a BSN, and you know that you need a strong GPA to be competitive. That, too, makes your choice clear (at least to me). I see no compelling reason to stay in your current unpleasant situation.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

Well, last semester my nursing courses were 9 credit hours. This semester is 10 credit hours. That's another thing that really got me concerned. Last semester we had one class, fundamentals, that was worth 9 credit hours, for ONE class. You can imagine what getting a C in a 9 credit hour class will do to your GPA.

thats what my fundamental class is..9 credits,which includes our lab. lec 2x a week and lab 1x a week...

next semester is 10 credits thats for pysch/ob which includes lec 3x week and lab 1x week...plus pharm 2 which is 1 credit..and our clinicals will be 7 hrs once a week...where now its 6 hrs/week...

Specializes in Forensic Psych.

If get out now before it would be an even bigger waste of time. It would be a real shame to have your GPA blown so badly you can't actually finish pursuing your dreams, you know? Not to mention the stress and chaos you must be dealing with.

My program was not as terrible as yours but if I could have transferred I would have. If they will take you as a transfer student it would be great. My second year I just kept my head down, obeyed every stupid rule and repeated "I will stay positive". I am so glad to be away from the petty teachers and the totally un-supportive program. (Is that a bash? If the shoe fits (they should) wear it! or change it.)

I empathize with others in a situation like mine. I fee both glad and unfortunate that there are others who share a story similar to mine. I want to go to graduate school and I know grades are important so I am taking them very seriously. I still don't know if its worth it to delay myself effectively 2 years and go into debt in order to attend an "easier" school and hopefully bring my GPA back up to where it has been. So is it only the people who graduate from these "easy" schools are the ones that get into graduate school, certainly not. Is the fate of people who attend and graduate from these stressful, strict, and disorganized programs simply doomed to live the rest of there career as "just a nurse" because they couldn't get into graduate school on account of the program they chose to attend?

Specializes in ER trauma, ICU - trauma, neuro surgical.

When I was in school, a CC or university was basically the only way to get an RN (there were a few online schools, but not many.) All of a sudden, all these schools started popping up and online RN's were pumping out students left and right. In some way, I think talent of instructors started to fan out. Profs left the schools to take up higher positions. Schools started to fast track RN students into MSN programs with practically no bedside experience. Clinical instructors were being hired with BSN's and minimal bedside experience. The HESI exams were being introduced to every nursing school in the country. Things changed quickly. Having a masters doesn't equal someones ability to be a great teacher.

If you decide to stick it out, remember that you can do your RN-BSN bridge. Keep you head in the game and do what you have to do to make good grades. Study groups, testing strategies, online resources, even locking yourself in your room for days on end. There are books and manuals on how to test better in nursing school. Way your options between sticking it out or transferring. Look at the pros and cons.

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