My classmates are Jellyfish!!- Spineless - page 4
I am sooo sick of my class. I don't go to school, I go to an aquarium surrounded by spineless jellyfish. It seems that I am always made out to look bad. Ex. Today, we had a 5 chp. Med-Surg test... Read More
Mar 28, '04Um, since this board all of a sudden changed to a "proper way of posting your board" can this thread be closed cause it has changed from what the op was stating to back and forth "ways of posting". Just an opinion. Thanks
Mar 28, '04Ya know, the test was a simple, 8 problem-fraction-roman # test. Sure, I could have taken the test no prob. AND, it is nothing that we review - not like medicines.
THE WHOLE POINT IS, if you agree to something or not agree -STAND BY IT. It is like politics. They say one thing when they want to get a point across to a certain group & another when they are caught off guard.
A good friend of mine in class had the same thing happen to her when I was out sick one day. MOST of the class was talking about assignments & how it would be easier to do "such in such" Well, my friend asked the teacher something regarding that & how the class was in agreement. When it came down to it, the teacher addressing the class for their opinion - THAT JUST SAT THERE.
I intend on fighting for what is right, especially for my patients. If that means I will not have friends because I go against what others think is easier for them, so be it. At night, I can sleep knowing I did more.
Mar 29, '04I did not write this post looking for people to agree or disagree. Basically, I needed to vent. My history in posts show that I do not usually complain about things. Yes, I thought that some of the remarks we kinda harsh & pissed me off because the person, I didn't feel understood the "underlying cause" of my post, but hey, we are all different & entitled to our view. That is why I stand by my op. I do not respect people that are wishy-washy. If a doctor was instructing a nurse to administer a medication or do treatment that was wrong for the pt., would that nurse not speak up & say something? (outside the pt's room of course?)
Again, it was not the point of taking the test on that particular day, it was the fact that the class didn't did not stand behind what they felt.
My teacher stated that when I started school I was so excited, got a cap, was going to wear a white uniform, wanted to make a scrap book of our time together, wanted to form study groups. AND, wanted to do WHATEVER I could to help everyone pass. She said that I saw everything "Rosey" That I thought school & people were suppose to be a certain way & I am finding out that they are not, I am hurt by it. Well, she hit the nail on the head. But, the only thing I can say, is that I knew how nursing was going to be - hard & difficult & yet, sometimes rewarding - so at least I got that right.
At the begining, we were asked if we wanted to wear caps or not. There were plenty of people who did not want to wear caps. I, on the other hand, stated that "I worked too hard & waited too long not to be able to wear my cap. Could we not make it a personal choice?" And would you believe that I had several people come up to me days after that & say that they wanted to wear a cap but didn't want to say anything. One girl even said that she would never have had the gonads to say something but glad there was someone who did. That student, sadly, had to drop out.
Mar 29, '04Quote from justjennI don't see how this situation can be compared to patient safety. One situation is potentially life threatening, the other is not. Far from it. Just because some of your classmates didn't speak up about delaying a scheduled test, doesn't mean they wouldn't speak up about a much more serious, potentially life threatening situation. It's two completely different situations that could easily elicit two completely different responses from the same person.I do not respect people that are wishy-washy. If a doctor was instructing a nurse to administer a medication or do treatment that was wrong for the pt., would that nurse not speak up & say something?
:spin:Last edit by Sheri257 on Mar 30, '04
Mar 29, '04justjenn i completely "get" your point. your OP was clear and the underlying irritating factor was completely apparent to me. the class collectively grumbled about something and when you addressed the issue to the teacher they all acted as though they had no idea what you were talking about. it has nothing to do with what day the test is taken it has to do with wishywashy people saying one thing and then not backing you up later. these will be the same people who will agree to protest certain things or back certain ideas on the job and then when the management meeting occurs they leave you high and dry. I can totally agree that this is annoying escpecially if it is happening frequently as you have intimated. I guess just take a lesson from this experience and either call them out for being wishy-washy or don't be the spokesperson anymore, let someone else do it.
p.s. -why is anyone argueing the OP's right to be annoyed? we all must be having a bad week!
Mar 29, '04Quote from smkoepkeI completely agree!!justjenn i completely "get" your point. your OP was clear and the underlying irritating factor was completely apparent to me. the class collectively grumbled about something and when you addressed the issue to the teacher they all acted as though they had no idea what you were talking about. it has nothing to do with what day the test is taken it has to do with wishywashy people saying one thing and then not backing you up later. these will be the same people who will agree to protest certain things or back certain ideas on the job and then when the management meeting occurs they leave you high and dry. I can totally agree that this is annoying escpecially if it is happening frequently as you have intimated. I guess just take a lesson from this experience and either call them out for being wishy-washy or don't be the spokesperson anymore, let someone else do it.
p.s. -why is anyone argueing the OP's right to be annoyed? we all must be having a bad week!
Been there myself a few times..... when this type of stuff happens, I will usually just say somethings comical like " Yipes! A few mimutes ago, I thought there was a group around me on this"... and then state my preference. I would not let it bug me. My instructors all know that I am a leader in my groups..... this just shows that you are too.
Hang in there!!
Mar 30, '04Amen! Thanks! I am not so much happy that you guys agree w/me, it is that you understand my point.
Just to let everyone know, I have a smile on my face & am still out there helping. What a good team player, especially nurse, needs to do.
Best - justjenn
Mar 30, '04Quote from justjennGood for you!!! Don't let them get you down. Chin up, and you will persevere, cap and all!Just to let everyone know, I have a smile on my face & am still out there helping. What a good team player, especially nurse, needs to do.
Best - justjenn
Mar 30, '04Quote from justjennI used to fall into that trap,too...and get very pizzed...and waste a lot of my good positive energy in a very negative way....You know what? I don't do it any longer-let others speak for themselves.I am no super hero...And when I have to speak up I am trying to learn to do it in a politically correct manner...It's no fun getting a reputation at work and being cut off at the knees every time you have an idea because your administration is tired of hearing the sound of your voice ...Maybe one of the reasons this keeps happening to you is because some of your class mates want to see you take it on the chin? Maybe a few of them have the same kind of opinion of you that you seem to have of them? That happens to "aggressive" women (nothing against you-I am coming to terms with this myself) It has taken me many years to learn how to pick my battles-and when to just shut up....It really is no fun being the rebel all of the time-it is very tiring....Your teacher gave a head on assessment of you-I am the "smoother over-er" also...I want everyone to be content and it ain't always possible....Another very hard lesson to learn and as a charge nurse in LTC a very valuable one....I can't make the staff be happy-I can be fair but now and then someone is going to have a bad day....But-that does not mean it is ABOUT ME..... I am still working on this,too......Jen-I feel your pain......Here's hoping you join me on the journey to learning to please ourselves....and letting everyone else fight their own battles and please themselves.... ...I also forgot to mention this........"Oh-patient in room 203-can you please code tomorrow? I am not up to it today"........I don't remember our class every asking to postpone an assignment or exam.....I am sooo sick of my class. I don't go to school, I go to an aquarium surrounded by spineless jellyfish.
It seems that I am always made out to look bad. Ex. Today, we had a 5 chp. Med-Surg test & just came off of 2 days of team-nursing clinicals. Well, after Med-Surg we had pharm. Today, we were suppose to have a math-test (for daily grade). Before our instructor came in, I asked how many people's brains are fried & would like to see if we can take the math test on Monday? Some people raised their hands. So.....when the instructor came in, I told her that "we are worn-out & could we PLEASE!!! take the math test on Monday" She said she didn't realize we had a major test today & if that is what the rest of the class wants, it's ok w/her. WELL, wouldn't you know, everyone just stared at her w/a blank look on their face when she asked that. AND, 1 girl said, "can we take it today if we wanted too?" And she said sure. WELL, EVERYONE DECIDED TO TAKE IT :angryfire I felt like a dumb---! This isn't the first time something like this has happened.
I'M SICK OF MY CLASSMATES! It is sad, but when/if I graduate in August - I am not going into the transition RN program. I do not want to be stuck with these people again, I am going to do an online course.
I just needed to vent.
justjennLast edit by ktwlpn on Apr 1, '04
Mar 31, '04I don't want to be a PITA or anything but when I read the OP's post first thing I thought was that maybe SHE wasn't addressing the issue in a positive way w/ the prof.
then when I read her follow-up after someone was kinda non-supportive I was SURE of it.
I don't mean to come down on the OP but I had someone in my class who was like you are....she kinda thought she was the class rep. but it wasn't that that drove the rest of us nuts..it was the way she presented these issues.
She was VERY disrespectful of the professors and her 'spin' on these issues was GUILT...like they shoudl feel bad for wanting us to take a test til we passed...or give us 60 pages of reading ....in a tone that couldn't be mistaken as anything less than patronizing......then say "and everyone agrees"...
of course when ASKED...we all denied it....because we may think 60 pages on top of a major test the next day wasn't IDEAL we certainly don't think being disrespectful is the way to change that....so while we agreed w/ her originial issue...we didn't agree on how it was presented.
I think that may be your problem. I say if your not the class rep don't assume that role.
Mar 31, '04Funny thing happened today. Everybody wanted to delay a test but I didn't. I really wanted to be done with it and would have said so. However, a good friend asked me not to speak up because she really needed the extra time. So I gave her a break and kept my mouth shut.
Just thought it was kinda ironic in light of this thread. :chuckle
Mar 31, '04We just do the raise-your-hand vote. No words or arguements, just a bunch of evils stares from the people that don't get their way.