ITT tech RN?

[bublinkova]

So, I almost went for an interview for this program and then I started hearing dreadful things about it. More than a couple people have complained about the clinical for peds being absolutely ridiculous. They went to a daycare center for 10 hours and watched kids throw mud at eachother!!!!!! Is this really happening? I surely wouldn't think any proper hospital would hire grads from this school but maybe I'm wrong??

[nurseprnRN, BSN, RN]

quote from morte

would this pass with the nursing board?

no. for accreditation surveys, schools have to prepare incredibly huge documentation of everything from faculty credentials to stats on student performance to info on where clinicals are held and what experiences the students have there. and more, more, more. it is an immense undertaking.

trust me, the itt techs of this world are never gonna pass that.

[morte, LPN, LVN]

then how do their students sit for nclex? isn't there a mechanism in place to prevent this from continuing?

quote from morte

would this pass with the nursing board?

no. for accreditation surveys, schools have to prepare incredibly huge documentation of everything from faculty credentials to stats on student performance to info on where clinicals are held and what experiences the students have there. and more, more, more. it is an immense undertaking.

trust me, the itt techs of this world are never gonna pass that.

[Stephalump]

Then how do their students sit for NCLEX? Isn't there a mechanism in place to prevent this from continuing?

It has to be good enough, because the few students who actually manage to graduate from ITT Tech seem to be eligible to take the NCLEX. I believe most BON standards are much lower than national accreditation standards, which is how these places continue to exist.

[nurseprnRN, BSN, RN]

the answer depends on the state. some states may allow itt grads to sit for nclex there (i don't know which ones offhand but would be willing to be enlightened), but when the grads go elsewhere, that new bon will ask where the applicant for licensure went to school. even if the applicant passed nclex in her original state, she will not be granted a license by reciprocity in the new state if she did not graduate from a program the new state approves.

word to the wise. you never know where you'll end up. i swore up and down i'd stay in my home state because it has such great hospitals and schools, and here i am, smumble-mumble years later, having lived on both coasts and at least one stop in between.

go to a real school. "the bitter taste of poor quality lingers long after the sweet taste of low price is forgotten."

~ben franklin.

[Kbartholomay]

Alot of people are very miss informed, although ITT is a very horrible school with a horrible reputation and a school that should not be holding a nursing program the state board still decides whether or not to grant a school "provisional" accreditation to teach a associate degree in nursing as long as that student graduates and receives a diploma from that program he/she is eligible to sit for the boards in any state just because the school doesn't become accredited doesn't take away that persons diploma it then becomes up to the employer whether or not to hire someone based off that factor. So the state boards will not deny you sitting for you nclex based on the fact that your school didn't not become accredited.

[Red35]

I attend a for profit school that is NLNAC accredited and it's just as horrible as ITT...

So I'm thinking of transferring to another school-it's not NLNAC accredited but has attriculation agreements with several colleges to pursue my BSN (all of these colleges are NLNAC accredited). My gpa isn't high enough to get in the three Universities in my area ( I have a 3.2 and I need a 3.9).

I called a few schools to inquire about the BSN program and when I told them what school I was attending....well one school actually giggled and NONE of the area colleges will accept my schools credit even though my school is accredited.

I've come to the conclusion that reputation is everything-it may be different when you have obtained your BSN but in regards to your ADN-if a school has attriculation agreements it's better than attending a school with accredidation and is considered a joke.

[NICUmiiki, DNP, NP]

I attend a for profit school that is NLNAC accredited and it's just as horrible as ITT...

So I'm thinking of transferring to another school-it's not NLNAC accredited but has attriculation agreements with several colleges to pursue my BSN (all of these colleges are NLNAC accredited). My gpa isn't high enough to get in the three Universities in my area ( I have a 3.2 and I need a 3.9).

I called a few schools to inquire about the BSN program and when I told them what school I was attending....well one school actually giggled and NONE of the area colleges will accept my schools credit even though my school is accredited.

I've come to the conclusion that reputation is everything-it may be different when you have obtained your BSN but in regards to your ADN-if a school has attriculation agreements it's better than attending a school with accredidation and is considered a joke.

If you graduate from an RN program that is not NLNAC or CCNE accredited, It doesn't matter if you go to a BSN program that is. You have become an RN through a school that is not accredited, and that is what masters degree programs and other states will look at.

[springchick1, ADN, RN]

You can go to your State's BON and look at their NCLEX Board pass rate. One of our for profit schools in the state I am in had a 27.3% pass rate. A lot of hospitals in our area won't hire from these schools. My old manager told me she takes one look at the school and discards this application. The nurses aren't prepared and have horrible skills. I guess that's why if they are just watching videos instead of going to clinicals.

[NICUmiiki, DNP, NP]

You can go to your State's BON and look at their NCLEX Board pass rate. One of our for profit schools in the state I am in had a 27.3% pass rate. A lot of hospitals in our area won't hire from these schools. My old manager told me she takes one look at the school and discards this application. The nurses aren't prepared and have horrible skills. I guess that's why if they are just watching videos instead of going to clinicals.

Wow! That's terrible. Most schools in my state are 85% and up. There is one school that is at 67% and is currently facing discipline.

[Red35]

To Miiki:

The BSN programs I have looked at also have MSN programs so this wouldn't be a problem. Also, I have been told that if you have your BSN, schools (as well as states ) look at the last degree and school attended and obtained. For example: If I become a nurse and went to AB college which wasn't NLNAC accredited and received my ADN then I went to AMC college which is NLNAC accredited and obtained my BSN the XYZ college for my Masters is going to look at my BSN degree...

Again what good is a school that has NLNAC accreditation but no one will accept the credits anyway?

[fm1089]

Why not try doing a year or so at a community college and finish pre/co-reqs for nursing school--A&P 1 and 2, micro, chem, etc. that's what I did, and then transferred to a 4 year BSN school

[Red35]

Why not try doing a year or so at a community college and finish pre/co-reqs for nursing school--A&P 1 and 2, micro, chem, etc. that's what I did, and then transferred to a 4 year BSN school

Already tried....my GPA is too low. I live in Tampa/St. Pete I only have three choices for Colleges all require a 3.8-I have about 3.2 almost 3.3..too old to spend years retaking pre-requ.