I smell a rat

oregonrene · Feb 13, 2005

I agree that you are pretty far down the line on this info, not to mention it is hearsay. You don't know for certain that this person cheated, since you've only heard the story 3rd hand. I wouldn't tell, JMO.

Aneroo, LPN · Feb 13, 2005

Was she double checking her answer? It's hard to tell with a situation like this. I would hold off on it also, but I would def keep and eye and ear out for other weird activity. -A

fotografe · Feb 13, 2005

It is hearsay. It would never hold up in court. You do not have to report anything.

Okay everyone I need your input. When we started nsg school we were told if we cheated blah, blah. And we were also told that if we knew someone was cheating and we didn't tell, that we would get kicked out for not telling.
Well to make a long story short, the other day in clinicals one of my peers asked another peer for the answer to the drug dosage question we always get every week. Well the girl that she asked told another girl that this girl had asked for the answer. And I talked to this girl on the phone today and she of course told me. So does that mean I should tell?? I would hate to get kicked out because I did not tell, but I feel like I am pretty far down the line on this info. WHAT would you do, or what do you suggest that I do??
Thanks

BETSRN · Feb 13, 2005

Okay everyone I need your input. When we started nsg school we were told if we cheated blah, blah. And we were also told that if we knew someone was cheating and we didn't tell, that we would get kicked out for not telling.
Well to make a long story short, the other day in clinicals one of my peers asked another peer for the answer to the drug dosage question we always get every week. Well the girl that she asked told another girl that this girl had asked for the answer. And I talked to this girl on the phone today and she of course told me. So does that mean I should tell?? I would hate to get kicked out because I did not tell, but I feel like I am pretty far down the line on this info. WHAT would you do, or what do you suggest that I do??
Thanks

I would keep out of it and just concentrate on what you have to learn.

crb613, BSN, RN · Feb 13, 2005

Okay everyone I need your input. When we started nsg school we were told if we cheated blah, blah. And we were also told that if we knew someone was cheating and we didn't tell, that we would get kicked out for not telling.
Well to make a long story short, the other day in clinicals one of my peers asked another peer for the answer to the drug dosage question we always get every week. Well the girl that she asked told another girl that this girl had asked for the answer. And I talked to this girl on the phone today and she of course told me. So does that mean I should tell?? I would hate to get kicked out because I did not tell, but I feel like I am pretty far down the line on this info. WHAT would you do, or what do you suggest that I do??
Thanks

Were you instructed not to discuss test Q's & answers after you left the test?If not I don't see how this could be cheating. If this took place during the test different story.We always discuss Q's & answers among ourselves after the test. Hope this helps you.

ageless · Feb 13, 2005

MYOB and focus your energy on your success. If you must get involved, perhaps you could go to the alleged perpetrator and voice your concern over classroom gossip and the appearance of evil.

LPN01112005 · Feb 13, 2005

Okay everyone I need your input. When we started nsg school we were told if we cheated blah, blah. And we were also told that if we knew someone was cheating and we didn't tell, that we would get kicked out for not telling.
Well to make a long story short, the other day in clinicals one of my peers asked another peer for the answer to the drug dosage question we always get every week. Well the girl that she asked told another girl that this girl had asked for the answer. And I talked to this girl on the phone today and she of course told me. So does that mean I should tell?? I would hate to get kicked out because I did not tell, but I feel like I am pretty far down the line on this info. WHAT would you do, or what do you suggest that I do??
Thanks

Are you actually graded on this clinical dosage calculation like you would be on a test in the classroom? During my clinicals, we used to get questions or calculations periodically, and we'd use whatever reference we could find to help us out if we didn't know the answer. It was like a race sometimes to see who could come up with the right answer the quickest. I always had my RN Notes in my pocket which gave me a quick reference to lab values, and you better bet I used them. I would also use a calculator when doing a dosage calculation if I needed it. However we were not graded on these questions, it was just a little something extra to keep us thinking. Even though we used various references to help us with the answers, we always learned from it. These one or two stand alone questions & answers always seemed to stick with me better than the 100 + classroom questions.

I probably wouldn't tell on your fellow student since she didn't specifically ask you and therefore, it's hearsay. You may want to get some clarification on what is considered cheating though. To me, discussing a group question isn't cheating unless you know you are not suppose to be discussing it. Sometimes it's best to just stay out of situations that don't specifically concern you. You wouldn't want to be labled "goody two shoes" by your other classmates. Besides, people who consistently cheat will eventually be found out, because when it comes time for the exit exam, they are not going to pass.

wonderbee, BSN, RN · Feb 13, 2005

No. If I wasn't directly involved in the original exchange, I wouldn't touch it and wouldn't repeat it. It's gossip, even if there is truth to it. And if I were involved in the original exchange, I would tell the student that I resent being put in that position and go elsewhere for his info. That's where it would end for me.

renerian, BSN, RN · Feb 13, 2005

Don't sweat that one....

renerian

NurseFirst · Feb 13, 2005

Okay everyone I need your input. When we started nsg school we were told if we cheated blah, blah. And we were also told that if we knew someone was cheating and we didn't tell, that we would get kicked out for not telling.
Well to make a long story short, the other day in clinicals one of my peers asked another peer for the answer to the drug dosage question we always get every week. Well the girl that she asked told another girl that this girl had asked for the answer. And I talked to this girl on the phone today and she of course told me. So does that mean I should tell?? I would hate to get kicked out because I did not tell, but I feel like I am pretty far down the line on this info. WHAT would you do, or what do you suggest that I do??
Thanks

That a lot of people respond to peer pressure. If you make it known that you find such behavior offensive, it might give the listener second thoughts about repeating it. A lot of times people say things like that to see if you would be willing to do that for them, or a fellow classmate.

I was offered some quizzes from a particularly hard instructor. I declined. I know that I earned my "A" without any outside or unfair help; that makes a big difference in how I feel about myself, and my level of confidence in what I am able to know and do.

NurseFirst

That isn't to say I wouldn't give someone an extra calculator, or tell them how they might successfully deal with not bringing their stethoscope to clinical. The last, after all, I consider to be "critical thinking". No one said we couldn't share :)

lil' girl, LPN · Feb 14, 2005

Thanks for the responses. To answer the question, we have a dosage calculation to do on every clinical, it counts on our clinical evaluation as S=satisfactory on U=unsatisfactory. If you get 3 U's in any one area on clinicals you are booted out of the program. So you can see it is very serious. This girl was doing her calculation when she asked the other girl for the answer.