Would Jesus be employable

pkmom · Nov 9, 2002

wow, the Trinity is a complicated thing for many to understand. Romans says "your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus who being in very nature God did not consider equality with God something to be grasped....." that says a lot to me. BTW did anyone make the correction that it was Peter who cut off the soldiers ear.

I tend to agree with those who say Jesus would be a super nurse. He'd be the least expensive healer for sure!

Lausana · Nov 9, 2002

To answer the question--Yes, I believe true believers would know that Jesus was the real thing...people did that very thing 2000 years ago just by seeing and hearing of what he had had said or done, and every Christian since has believed in him just by faith, so if we were to meet him today I don't think there would be any question. I don't think we'd meet a man who was perfect anywhere else so that might be a tip off that this man was for real!

live4today, RN · Nov 9, 2002

Originally posted by ohbet
Lets say Jesus Christ was on earth today ,he went to school and became a nurse,and had the same attitude towards life that he apparently had 2000 years ago.
Would he be employable? Or would he make such a fuss when he saw the cost cutting at patients expense and the injustice of the health care system and the discrepancy of care bet/ those with money vs those without,that he would simply not be employable.

........................do you find yourself making compromises
between your efforts to follow Jesus' example in your daily life and the need to survive and be employable?

In answer to your first question: Jesus had one specific reason for coming to Earth. He came, He did what He was ordained to do by His Father God, and He returned to God...straightforward as that with no side tracking in His life. Jesus was very focused on what His mission was, and He spent not one bit of energy outside that mission for which I am eternally grateful. :) So, no...regardless of when He would have been born, His mission would have been the same, therefore He would NOT have been "employable as a nurse" or anything other than the job His Father gave Him to do...which HE did so superbly well! :)

In answer to your second question: I have never compromised my efforts or beliefs to follow Jesus' example in my daily life just to survive or be employable. I cannot live separate from my Father's Divine Order for me. If I had to choose between serving God or man, I would always serve God and pray for the man who would expect me to do otherwise. :nurse:

Nighty night from Dover Air Force Base, Delaware!

Rustyhammer · Nov 9, 2002

This is getting pretty heavy.

-R

Lausana · Nov 9, 2002

I thought that after I posted my last post earlier...sigh... but I was just answering an asked question :chair: Guess it should go back to the Jesus being a nurse thought

Wise dad to the rescue

ohbet · Nov 9, 2002

LasVegas,the basis of Christianity is Jesus Christ himself and the decisive thing about being a Christian is trying ,as far as this is posible for human nature,to imitate Jesus.The ultimate criterion of a persons Christian spirit is not theory,such as the Triniy,but practice ;not how he thinks of teachings,the trinity,dogmas,the trinity but how he acts in ordinary life.

Now about this Trinity,an idea which can be scarcely understood by modern men and women and which is a doctrine created by the early church,which might have made sense back then,but is non-sensical now.

rncountry · Nov 9, 2002

Vegas, the idea of Trinity is a hard one to understand, no matter what. In the Fourth century Bishops gathered in Nice, Italy to put the Trinity into a framework that would be understandable as well as to hopefully heal the split between West and East. As most know that hope was not to be. However the Nicene Creed is said in thousands of churches around the world every Sunday. Primarily Catholic and Episcopal churches. I am going to post it and maybe that will help a bit. It may not, but it is a important part of services for millions of people.

The Nicene Creed

We believe in one God,

the Father, the Almighty,

maker of heaven and earth,

of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,

the only Son of God,

eternally begotten of the Father,

God from God, Light from Light,

true God from true God,

begotten, not made,

of one Being with the Father.

Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation

he came down from heaven:

by the power of the Holy Spirit

he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,

and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;

he suffered death and was buried.

On the third day he rose again

in accordance with the Scriptures;

he ascended into heaven

and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,

and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,

who proceeds from the Father and the Son.

With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.

He has spoken through the Prophets.

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

We look for the resurrection of the dead,

and the life of the world to come. Amen.

This version is what us Episcopalians say. I don't believe the Catholic version is any different, though I may be wrong.

Would Jesus make a good nurse? Absolutely.

ohbet · Nov 9, 2002

rncountry,lets be sure to add that the belief in the doctrine of the trinity is not what is fundamental to being a christian or christianity,christianity is not about doctrines fundamentally

rncountry · Nov 9, 2002

Actually, ohbet, they are. Church doctrines form the basis for the Christian religion, much the same way as policy and procedure form your practice as a nurse, or the nurse practice act does the same. Please don't misunderstand me here OK? The Nicene Creed is a very important doctrine in early church history, and by Church I am talking Roman Catholic Church as it is the basis for the Christian religion to begin with. Obviously many sects of Christianity have formed since then, and many Evagelical Churches do not put the same emphasis on doctrine that Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Episcopal and Lutheran Churches do. Please also understand I am not knocking Evagelical churches, only stating that they are not as doctrine oriented.

It is worth noting however, that Eastern Orthodox includes everything from Greece through to Russia. That is millions of people. The Episcopal Church is part of the Anglican communion, so that would be Church of England as well as thousands of Churches who take their history and background from the Church of England.

So while there are those that do not feel doctrine is an important part of the Christian religion, there are just as many if not more who do.

To understand all that it is necessary to read a history of the Church, and the splinter between the Western and Eastern orthodoxes. And then to continue on to the Protestant Reformation. As a lover of history and as someone who feels deeply about how my religion is practiced, I have done a great deal of study on the history of the early Church and so on. Some of it is not pretty, but then we are humans and not perfect. But the actual basis of the Christian religion is the Trinity. It came about because there were some, like Gnostics that believed that Christ was fully divine and not human at all. Or the Arian theory from the Eastern Church who believed close to the same idea. The Nicene Creed was written to have a specific basis for the church to form what they believed in. And to solidify that belief instead of having different versions being spread. The Nicene Counsel was called by Emperor Constintine. Look it up it is fascinating history. At least it is to me, the history freak.

maureeno · Nov 9, 2002

Catholics do profess the same creed as rncountry has posted.

LasVegasRN · Nov 9, 2002

Thank you, RNcountry! You answered my question perfectly!

ohbet · Nov 9, 2002

mccountry,I respectfully disagree,disagree with your claim that belief in the Trinity is fundamental to christianity and to being a christian. I dont believe it and Im a christian, but If I said I dont believe that Jesus christ ever lived,was never resurrected and that his life has no relevance to how I lead my own life,then I could hardly be a christian.

Anyway,the word Trinity is never mentioned by Jesus nor is it even in the bible