Why are nurses disrespected so much? - page 8

Hi all! I just started our clinical this week as a new nursing student and there is something that's been bothering me and I just can't seem to come to terms with it... why are nurses so... Read More

  1. by   AngelKissed857
    I think you're ok on your username, you make it clear you are a nurse2b, you're not claiming an unearned degree, licensure, or certification. Some places are incredibly toxic, some are awful to Stine s and new grads in particular. I'm a new grad, and in a part time job because I'm also now in a full time BSN program. One of my favorite things about my job is that there is NO backbiting, no politics, it's a true team effort, with everyone supporting everyone else. I feel respected, supported, and appreciated. I sure didn't feel that way in school, except that one special rotation. You'll get through, keep your head down, your mouth mostly shut. Learn everything you can, and move on. Good luck to you!
  2. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from AngelKissed857
    I think you're ok on your username, you make it clear you are a nurse2b, you're not claiming an unearned degree, licensure, or certification. Some places are incredibly toxic, some are awful to Stine s and new grads in particular. I'm a new grad, and in a part time job because I'm also now in a full time BSN program. One of my favorite things about my job is that there is NO backbiting, no politics, it's a true team effort, with everyone supporting everyone else. I feel respected, supported, and appreciated. I sure didn't feel that way in school, except that one special rotation. You'll get through, keep your head down, your mouth mostly shut. Learn everything you can, and move on. Good luck to you!
    The OP just added the "2b" to the username. I assume that was in response to comments made regarding the inappropriate use of the word "nurse in the username.
  3. by   shaymc33
    I have to say all the experience I have had as a nurse has been very positive! I am an LVN, so some say they are faced with "not a real nurse", but again, I have never faced this! I suppose it depends on where you work. Don't let clinicals define how you think others see you! I LOVE my job and the doctors and other nurses (RN's) I work with!
  4. by   honeybee_23
    Hi OP! I would have to agree with you. Something I've noticed is that you have to be a certain type of individual to make it through nursing school and to be a successful nurse. These people are thick skinned, assertive, independent, strong willed, and smart. If you group these people all together obviously some people will clash. It was actually funny observing the nursing educators who were teaching classes during my orientation to the hospital - they would constantly interrupt each other! No one was backing down for the other to speak. I guess this is just how nurses are. You just learn how to stand your ground. I don't think it's personal though - if a nurse is busy and you have to ask her something and she snaps at you, maybe it's because she didn't mean to but she was just busy thinking about a lot of things. You haven't experienced it yet, but when you're on the job, it may not look like it, but you're constantly thinking about what you're going to next, what this patient needs right now, what the latest set of vital signs and labs were, what you need to call the doctor for, and when someone interrupts, it's easy to get irritated. Also during handoff, the oncoming nurse has to be thorough and assertive. If something wasn't done during the previous shift, it's understandable that the oncoming nurse would get mad, because then if something happens to the patient, then part of it could possibly be her fault as well! As for being mean to new nurses, unless it's actual bullying, I think it's normal for someone to get impatient when they have been doing something for years and years, and then having to get back to a basic level and teach it to someone step by step. Good luck OP, I'm a very sensitive individual as well, but I've learned how to just not take anything personally. If I'm doing something wrong and someone gets mad, I understand, because the patient's safety is above all else.
  5. by   Skippingtowork
    Quote from sevensonnets
    I'm in my 38th year of nursing (CVICU/ Open Heart) and have never even once felt disrespected or been treated like a slave.
    There is no one alive who has not felt disrespected or been treated like a slave. Not even Jesus
  6. by   Zyprexa
    Nurses can be disrespected by patients and family because "patient satisfaction comes first," before anything...staff safety, evidence-based practice, and even what's best for the patient. God forbid we do anything to offend a patient, or they'll give us poor reviews.

    Nursing = the ultimate blame profession. If you want to be blamed for things that you have no control over and get yelled at constantly, go into nursing.

    ETA: However, some of the best people I've ever met have been my nursing coworkers. I've never been "eaten" by any other healthcare staff. They are amazing and are really the only reason I still work as a nurse (aside from the $$ aspect). I need a new career.
  7. by   kbrn2002
    Quote from Tammi123
    Seriously, ever heard of eating your young? Give the poor kid a break about the user name. Are we really SO insecure that a student that is working towards being a nurse is such a threat? They are very concerned about the way that patients treat nurses. This is a very valid concern and one we should address and help them to find their way toward resolving. Making the user name the issue is a coup out. Avoiding an issue that all "nurses"- experienced, newbie or student need to unite to address. This is part of the problem. We let levels of experience and ego get in the way of a united front that makes us all stronger. Support this individual and offer up your own experience, don't be threatened by someone that is seeing things with fresh eyes.
    Telling her she should change her username and I believe one poster kindly pointed out that a mod could help her with that was not disrespectful nor does it make us insecure. It is pointing out that OP is breaking this sites terms of service by using the title nurse in her username when she is not yet a nurse. It is also actually illegal in many states to call yourself a nurse before you pass the NCLEX and become a nurse. Granted I can't think of a single time I've heard of somebody being arrested for this crime but that doesn't mean that a whole community of nurses that have legally earned the right to call themselves nurse shouldn't call somebody out that is using the title before it is earned no matter how innocently.


    ETA: I see that after I posted this the OP did indeed change her username, so thank you OP for listening.
    Last edit by kbrn2002 on Sep 17 : Reason: missed a key word
  8. by   Horseshoe
    Quote from Skippingtowork
    There is no one alive who has not felt disrespected or been treated like a slave. Not even Jesus
    Speak for yourself. I've never been treated like "a slave' at any of my jobs. The times I've ever been treated with disrespect have been very few. But "slave"? Nope.
  9. by   txmurse69
    I always laugh when I see students posting in non-student forums because I know your about to get slammed. Stick to the student forums until your done with school. There is a reason Nursing loses 30% of new nurses within 3 years. The real every day is not like TV, it's not "Nurse Jackie" or "Greys". The real world of nursing, especially on a Med-Surg unit is much more down and dirty than the made up Florence Nightingale world school talks about or that the public perceives it to be. Where I work we are outwardly harsh to each other at times (if you don't know us), reality is it's all in jest, it's blowing off steam. I'm 1 of 3 males on my unit and one of the most senior staff. My coworkers joke that while I seem mean it's just my gruff exterior and tell nubies and students to not be scared, lol. I'm just blunt and to the point, I don't sugar coat things with my coworkers. As I've told coworkers and management I save the smiles and support for my patients who actually need it. I'm not there to make nurses, cna' s or MD's feel good about themselves, that's their responsibility to themselves. So put on your big girl pants and suck it up.
  10. by   Akay1717
    "Why can't we all show compassion to each other?" A question I've asked myself so many times over. The answer: We live in a world with a lot of broken and hurting people. Nursing is a hard, hard job and one of the reasons it's so difficult is because we work with people. Patients, doctors, techs, other nurses, management and on and on. Everyone we work with has someone to answer to, a role to play... but you're right we shouldn't be dis-compassionate to each other no matter what our job title or role or who we answer to.

    Being countercultural in healthcare normally means actually being someone with compassion. What you personally can do? First and foremost have grace and compassion on yourself and then extend that to others no matter how nasty they are. You became a nurse for a reason. Hold on to that reason and continue showing up, continue doing the right thing, and master the art of setting boundaries and being the bigger person.

    When I was a brand new nurse I was extremely bullied by another nurse. Everyone said to stand up to her because it's what she wants. I chose to kill her with kindness. And if you knew me this was no easy feat. I spent a lot of time in the med room fuming mad. But I never showed her that she got to me. I was kind, and continued to focus on doing my job. A year later I was made charge nurse and her patient started rapidly going down hill from symptomatic a.fib. I helped her, we worked together and when I ended up leaving that job she legit bought me a card and wrote me a message about what a good nurse I was. I never gave her what she wanted, I chose to respect her and focus my mind on bigger things than her attitude.

    Don't let people steal your joy. Focus on being a good nurse the rest will take care of itself.
  11. by   AngelKissed857
    You rock! It seems as if anyone posts about bullying or NETY, the poor OP- who is only wanting a discussion, or support, is blasted. Hats off for taking the time to show just the tip of the iceberg on how prevalent and damaging this behavior/culture is, especially in our profession. No offense intended to anyone out there who has never experienced this phenomena- but it does exist.
  12. by   ILUVERNSG
    OP- It's a tough career for sure... Not everyone is cut out to be a nurse.
    Last edit by ILUVERNSG on Sep 17 : Reason: edit
  13. by   AngelKissed857
    Quote from TriciaJ
    It is illegal and against terms of service to misrepresent oneself as a nurse.
    But she didn't- it CLEARLY says nurse2b! OP is excited about becoming a nurse in the future, and she states that in her user name.

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