What kills me..... (VENT)!!!

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I'm sorry but this will be a vent. After working 13+ busy shift in the ER, I come home to log on to here and it simply kills me that NON-nurses (including those in nursing school, or taking pre-reqs, or those who have not even graduated from high school yet!) comes on here and think they know what it's like to really be a nurse.

Oh really????

All the "I will never be that kind of nurse" threads, but never spent one HOUR in our Dansko's......

And the kicker? Telling how you will "handle a doctor when calling one", when yet, you have not had to actually deal with a doctor regarding direct PATIENT CARE!

The superior-know-it-all-attitude simply kills me!

All I can say is when SOME of you actually get into a nursing program, get through the nursing program, pass boards, be lucky enough to actually land a RN job, and then start WORKING as a licensed RN, I sure hope you are TEACHABLE! Because I can only imagine how your orientation will go, because it's simply not easy to teach people who already know it all or got all the answers, without really knowing what they don't know! And then we'll get flooded with threads about how nurses eat their young!

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.

I've seen much harsher. You were an angel compared to some I've read.

I posted on that Boston MED thread too and the The nurse I don't want to be one. One poster told me you might have an opinion, but you have to be able to bring something to the table in order to challenge what other nurses say, and that is true. I don't have any experience. Everything I know came from books, my mom ( she's an RN), My days spent shadowing, and my CNA training. That compared to years of actual nursing is very very little. I really don't think I know it all even if my posts have that "know-it-all" attitude, I sometimes worry about just getting through the rest of my pre-req and into NS. Maybe this post will open up those Non nurses eyes and we will learn to sit quietly in the background and learn until we are preacticing RN, LPNs etc........

We all get fed up sometimes, we just have those days.

Thanks again for all of your experiences, I will be sitting here craving more.

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I've seen much harsher. You were an angel compared to some I've read.

I posted on that Boston MED thread too and the The nurse I don't want to be one. One poster told me you might have an opinion, but you have to be able to bring something to the table in order to challenge what other nurses say, and that is true. I don't have any experience. Everything I know came from books, my mom ( she's an RN), My days spent shadowing, and my CNA training. That compared to years of actual nursing is very very little. I really don't think I know it all even if my posts have that "know-it-all" attitude, I sometimes worry about just getting through the rest of my pre-req and into NS. Maybe this post will open up those Non nurses eyes and we will learn to sit quietly in the background and learn until we are preacticing RN, LPNs etc........

We all get fed up sometimes, we just have those days.

Thanks again for all of your experiences, I will be sitting here craving more.

PatMac, I am impressed!

Keep that attitude and it will get you far! I know you are just now entering adulthood, but you seem mature for your age.

Stay teachable. Learn. Grow. Love. You will not go wrong! :redbeathe

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Well I Understand were you are coming from but I am in nursing school and I dont think i know everything, but i do have family in nursing who says its not as bad as you say it is.

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Specializes in being a Credible Source.

Well that's the beautiful thing about discussion boards... just ignore the posts that you don't like.

I don't really see a problem.

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Specializes in School Nursing.

Is the general consensus that the nurse wannabes, students, etc. should refrain from posting on the general nurses forums and stay in the pre-nursing/student forums?

If so, please excuse my faux pas... I've found this forum to be a wealth of knowledge in my research into this profession. I'm a jump right in kind of person so I've added my opinions often.

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Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.
Is the general consensus that the nurse wannabes, students, etc. should refrain from posting on the general nurses forums and stay in the pre-nursing/student forums?

If so, please excuse my faux pas... I've found this forum to be a wealth of knowledge in my research into this profession. I'm a jump right in kind of person so I've added my opinions often.

That describes me too mjmoon. I think we get ahead of ourselves because we are so excited about nursing. ( At least I am) It takes some restraint I guess. I love learning more about nursing it's addicting. I'm just a geek like that. Sorry to get on you guys nerves wit hour opinoins. I would like to be able to post questions about what certain things are and why certain things are done a certain way in your posts where there is a nursing delimma. Strictly questions and not opinions. Just so we can learn.

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I won't even be starting nursing school for another month and a half, I'll say that now. As a reader of these boards through my pre-reqs, I did want to make a first little chime-in.

I'm a career-changer from the education field myself, and believe me -- education's another field where the "outside" tends to have precious little idea what goes on on the "inside". If you've ever been a parent or a student (even of education), I guarantee you've frustrated a teacher at some point in your life. One can't always help being defensive when feeling attacked. I know I'm not innocent; I've certainly have said some unpleasant things to people who've come off as holier-than-thou about teaching when they've never taught a single class themselves.

I know that the frustration may, for some here, be limited to students and outsiders who come across as critical. However, I've seen quite a few posts here that have come across as saying that if you're a student nurse or new nurse, your words do not matter -- on anything. Shut up and go away. What's more, it sounds gleeful. That's quite disheartening to read, and worries me that that's going to be what the consensus is from my future co-workers, my peers, and perhaps even my instructors.

tl;dr I feel your pain. I just wish some of the animosity weren't quite so generalized.

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
1. couldn't you have posted this in the actual thread instead of creating a separate one?

2. a nursing student has an idea of how she wants to conduct his or her practice. is that so bad? i find it refreshing instead of the blank slates who come into the field and are socialized into the some of the negative behaviors/attitudes that impact us all.

3. so someone is idealistic. when in actual practice, he or she will learn and will adjust their worldview accordingly. it happens to all of us. in the meantime, be kind.

sincerely,

experienced nurse of almost 20 years

1) but there are so many of those threads.

2) not so bad than someone has an idea of how he wants to conduct his practice -- but the holier-than-thou, self-righteous, know-it-all tone grates on many of us.

3) again, the holier-than-thou, self-righteous, know-it-all tone is grating.

sincerely,

experienced nurse of over 30 years

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Specializes in Telemetry RN.

Don't send me back to the SN boards... have you seen the people who hang out in those places??? :eek:

Seriously through, I have nothing but respect for the experienced nurses on this forum. I would much rather sit quietly and learn from people who are *actually* practicing in the field. But if I have a dumb NS question, I'll keep it to the NS page ;)

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I work at a magnet hospital and can assure you nurses do eat their young.

Regardless, I feel your stress as I am overwhelmed after work quite often as well, but why channel the negativity at others? Particularly those who don't truly know what your going through? Getting into nursing school and passing the NCLEX while by no means easy does not make you superior anyone else. Nursing is hard, but ideally nursing is predicated on compassion and empathy, something you are not exuding at the moment.

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Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.
Regardless, I feel your stress as I am overwhelmed after work quite often as well, but why channel the negativity at others? Particularly those who don't truly know what your going through? Getting into nursing school and passing the NCLEX while by no means easy does not make you superior anyone else. Nursing is hard, but ideally nursing is predicated on compassion and empathy, something you are not exuding at the moment.

Welcome to allnurses rnew!!!! I'm just praying to make it through my pre-reqs and into a program.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.

"Well I Understand were you are coming from but I am in nursing school and I dont think i know everything, but i do have family in nursing who says its not as bad as you say it is. "

:yeah::lol2:

Thanks for proving the point of this post!! You stepped right up to the plate and demonstrated the OP's frustration.

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