What do nursing unions do? - page 6

I know there has been a lot of talk about unions lately. Exactly what do they do for nurses?... Read More

  1. by   Sheri257
    Quote from ryanfocker
    i never protected lazy workers, i protected EVERY worker without prejudice. becaue that is the job of union staff.
    Let's get real. The union does protect lazy workers. But so does management.

    I've seen companies de-unionize divisions. It made absolutely no difference in performance at all because the management employees were just as incompetent as union employees. Of course, not all union or management employees are incompetent but, my point is that both sides have their share. There really is no difference.

    However, I became pro-union when I saw the company fire the same managers who implemented all these downsizing measures on the company's behalf. The managers even did a lot of the workers' jobs to keep things going but the company didn't care and, in the end, even fired the managers.

    That's when I realized union was the best way to go. No matter how hard you work, no matter how much you do for them, the company is never going to look out for your interests.

  2. by   studious
    Quote from Gennaver
    Yes indeed.

    I wish you continued goodness.

    Unfortunately, there are others who are not being helped due to your hard work, only yourself.

    Here is where I would like to add my strength to a union, in order to not only help myself alone, (that is a benefit) but to spread the help to my cohorts who may not be able to have all of their hard work and planning pay off, (say if their employer decides to do something that cannot be taken care of in a 1 employee versus a corporation of thousands.)



    Gen
    p.s. I hope I never carry such a large load of self-serving justification and bias

    p.p.s. I do not see your posts of self-aggrandization and my replies of congratulations as going anywhere positive Teeituptom, so, there is nothing here for you and I to communicate about. I see you as having bias and you see you as not, lets agree to disagree-not much more for you and I to directly respond to in this.....

    I agree Gen,

    There is a fine line between being the best nurse you can and working under tremendous stress, and arrogance.
  3. by   zenman
    Quote from ryanfocker
    go to a third world country, and see what conditions are like.
    Don't you be bad mouthing Hawaii, now :chuckle
  4. by   MissPiggy
    [QUOTE=teeituptom]
    Quote from Gennaver


    Now you have mentioned the word fear twice above. Is it truly an actual fear or is it a self imposed fear. But why fear at all. A wise man once said " You have nothing to fear,but, fear itself"........
    Do fear and wage slave go hand in hand, yes they do. Does paranoia of this happen in all Industries, yes. So the first step in empowering ones self is to rise above fear, and realize that is truly a self imposed fear. Does that fear compare with someone who is holding a knife to your throat, no. It a self imposed fear not an actual or justifiable fear. So empower yourselves and rise above it, recognize it for what it truly is.

    Now thats the true term and its implications

    Is that why Texas nurses are AFRAID to even mention the word "union" in the workplace?
  5. by   MryRose
    Great posts Gen and Ryan......

    Corporations are non-emotional profit driven entities.

    They know that to defeat a group of people, whom they NEED to do the work, simply involve emotion. One great way is to "divide and conquer". Slip a little "us vs them" into the union vs non-union issue and we will battle amongst ourselves to the extent that we forget the original issues.....

    It's been working great....... corporations are finally getting some emotion out of this.... unfortunately it's a mere chuckle and the joke's on Nurses.

    Isn't it ironic that Nursing follows strict "protocols" for Nursing procedures, but can't conceive of gathering together to develop a set of "protocols" for the jobs that you all must do?

    Who has a stronger voice, one sole person or a choir of many???
  6. by   redwinggirlie
    I come from union country; we have no unions where I work now. Unions give peace of mind in my experience. But, if you're in one, get involved. Unions need input all the time, not just at contract crunches.
  7. by   teeituptom
    Quote from lizz

    That's when I realized union was the best way to go. No matter how hard you work, no matter how much you do for them, the company is never going to look out for your interests.

    That is very true. With only one note to point out. No one is better at looking out for your interests more than yourself. No one has a more vested interest in it than you yourelf.
  8. by   offlimits
    Unions no longer belong in healthcare for RNs. we should be developed enough as a profession to follow a shared goverance model. I agree that they breed mediocrity and just because you have seniority does not mean you are entitled to more than me. that's what often happens. been a nurse for a long time, worked both sides, prefer non union shared governance. i would rather take those dues monies and give it to a charitable organization like Doctors without Borders or St Jude, or put it in my 401k, which by the way i have that and a retirement pkg at my non umion facility.
  9. by   offlimits
    Unions no longer belong in healthcare for RNs. we should be developed enough as a profession to follow a shared goverance model. I agree that they breed mediocrity and just because you have seniority does not mean you are entitled to more than me. that's what often happens. been a nurse for a long time, worked both sides, prefer non union shared governance. i would rather take those dues monies and give it to a charitable organization like Doctors without Borders or St Jude, or put it in my 401k, which by the way i have that and a retirement pkg at my non umion facility.

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