Triple lumen central lines/test question/and flushing

  1. 0 We had an "On the Spot" quiz at work yesterday. Something new the nurse manager has created. She brings out quizzes a couple of times a month ....and we fill in the blanks...on the spot.

    Central Line questions:
    Which lumen for infusing blood?
    " " " " tpn/lipids?
    " " " iv solutions.....d5/ns ?
    ' " " withdrawing blood for blood draws?


    And what to use for flushing the ports? how much? do you use ns or heparinized solution.....

    She was referring to a sub-clavian, triple lumen,central line i.v.

    All hospitals are not the same on this.
    Oddly enough.

    What do you do at your hospital?
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  4. Visit  gwenith} profile page
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    The distal lumen is of course used for monitoring as for the rest there is little I have seen written but a couple of years ago there was a commercially available video on CVC lines that suggested that the distal lumen be the one for administration of blood and in the case where no monitoring was occuring it should be used for TPN. TPN should be administered through the middle lumen and never the proximal lumen. The rationale for this is that TPN is usually very damaging to tissue and if the CVC line had migrated out the middle and distal lumens were more likely to remain in the vein.

    Some hospitals use heparin locks, some n/s flushes Q6H. I don't know of anyone doing hep/saline flushes anymore since they were linked to HITS.

    Hope that helps.
  5. Visit  tonchitoRN} profile page
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    what is HITS?
  6. Visit  gwenith} profile page
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    Heparin Induced Thrombocytopenia Syndrome - look it up in the MERCK manual at the bottom of the page. Thier entry is very informative.
  7. Visit  neneRN} profile page
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    We don't have a specific policy, but in school were taught:
    Distal=Diet (tpn),IVF
    Middle=Meds
    Proximal=Phlebotomy

    We do have policies on flushing and this will probably vary for each hospital on exactly how much you're flushing with. We still use Heplock flush for these lines.
  8. Visit  VickyRN} profile page
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  9. Visit  renerian} profile page
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    Gwenith that is how I was taught.

    renerian
  10. Visit  deblam} profile page
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    I am interested in your spot quiz. Can I have a copy of the questions that you had to answer on central lines? One of our nurse educators is interested in pursing this. Many thanks.
  11. Visit  Jailhouse RN} profile page
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    In most institutions they use the acronym "SASH" for cath maintainence.
    S - saline
    A - anitbiotic (or ordered medication)
    S - saline
    H - heparin
    This works with most all CV catheters.
    Distal port for blood
    Middle port for feeds
    proximal for drugs
    Last edit by Jailhouse RN on Apr 14, '04
  12. Visit  duckboy20} profile page
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    We used distal-mainly for TPN when called for, medial for fluids, proximal for blood. IVF can be ran through all 3 ports if needed. We also set up the distal port with pressure tubing to monitor CVP. Want to be sure to use distal for feedings so it has time to dilute out in the blood before it hits the heart.
  13. Visit  passing thru} profile page
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    Also, the proximal and medial ports are 18 gauge.
    The distal has a 16 gauge lumen.

    Distal is for CVP and blood transfusion.
    Proximal for lab draws.
    And medial for TPN (feeds) and meds.

    Always change the heplock ports daily....
    And , always remember there is a real live human on the receiving end of
    your flushing.....

    Easy does it.
    And , be as sterile as possible.
  14. Visit  VickyRN} profile page
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    From Mark Hammerschmidt's site http://www.icufaqs.org:
    The ports are described as proximal, medial and distal - these are the reverse of proximal and distal as regards the patient. In other words, the ports are proximal or distal in relation to the site where the line goes into the patient. So the lumen that opens up at the very tip-end of the catheter - that's the distal port, because it opens the farthest away from the insertion point. The medial port is the next one backwards, and the proximal port is the one closest to the skin. Make sure that the team has checked: you should never infuse anything through a port that doesn't have a blood return.

    If you use the central line for TPN - which you should! - then that lumen is tied up for good. If the patient becomes critical enough, then you can take the TPN down and use the port for something else, but you can't use the port for TPN again - the patient will need a new line. Policy.

    We usually hook up the distal port to the transducer for reading CVP's, because the medial and proximal ports can snuggle up to the vessel wall and give weird waveforms. We also use the distal port for giving blood products, simply because it's big: the distal port is a 16-gauge lumen, while the other two are 18's. So plan a little - always save a port - maybe one of the medial ones - on a newly placed central line for TPN (even if the patient isn't on it yet. They may be soon...)
    From another source http://www.calexambulance.org/criticalprotocols.pdf:
    At the proximal end of the catheter 3 separate extension tubes are marked with the gauge size and position of the exit part of the lumen - proximal 18G, middle 18G, distal 16G. Recommendations of ruse of lumens are:
    Proximal 18G (white) - blood sampling or general access
    Middle 18G (blue) - TPN or general access
    Distal 16G (brown) - CVP monitor, blood products, general access.
  15. Visit  zacarias} profile page
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    Quote from duckboy20
    Want to be sure to use distal for feedings so it has time to dilute out in the blood before it hits the heart.
    How will using the distal for feedings dilute it? I thought it would just take longer to get to the bloodstream.


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