The Top Three AN Red Herrings

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It seems to me that whenever there is a debate here on AN, there are three predictable "red herrings" that get tossed into the mix. For those that don't know, a red herring is an element that distracts attention away from the real argument. There may be more, but these top three are the ones I have noticed the most. Perhaps others have more to add to the list! Feel free!

#1) The "Where is Your Compassion" Red Herring. Inevitably, whenever a poster takes an unpopular stance, their compassion is called into question. Questioning a nurse's compassion is like questioning a mechanic's willingness to get their hands dirty. It's such an integral part of nursing that I would give 99.9% of nurses the benefit of the doubt that they give compassionate care, no matter their opinion on a matter.

#2) The "Exception to the Rule" Red Herring. This one is pretty obvious. Whenever someone makes a generalization, no matter how much truth that generalization holds, someone always has to pipe up about their brother's mother in law's cousin who "had x,y, and z, but still managed to do a, b, and c". Know what? There is *always* an exception to the rule. That doesn't make the generalization any less true.

#3) The "Well, if you have never had (fill in the blank), then you couldn't possibly know anything about it" Red Herring. This one assumes that, for example, if I have never had a broken bone, I know nothing about the appropriate assessment, treatment, and follow up for that condition. Unless I have had my arm ripped off in an industrial accident, I couldn't possibly know anything at all about how to treat that patient. Unless I have not personally experienced burns over 50% of my body, I could not possibly know what is the most critical thing that needs to be done with that person.

Well, that's my little rant for the evening. Good night, all! :yawn:

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
if a patient (or patient's family member) questions the healthcare they received it is because they just wanted their "pillow fluffed" or their "hair brushed," etc. no patient (or anyone related to the patient) could possibly ever have a legitimate complaint.

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Specializes in L&D.

How about someone saying thats what happens in a predominately female profession...

How about someone saying thats what happens in a predominately female profession...

I'd say that one's in the top five.

#2 is universal, it happens no matter what the subject is. Some jerk will always have to point out he's got a shirttail relative who doesn't fall within any statistical norm, no matter what norm that is.

#3 is a debatable. Being a sicko myself, I could often tell my patients what it was going to feel like from their point of view when they were having an invasive test. I could prepare them for some things so that it wouldn't be an ugly surprise. Ugly surprises are always worse than ugly things you expect to happen. However, it's certainly not mandatory and patients will survive no matter whether or not the ugly stuff comes as a surprise.

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nah. she's still holding a grudge from the "letter to a triage nurse" thread.

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
How about someone saying thats what happens in a predominately female profession...

yes, yes yes :lol2:

All of this dysfunction is normal, acceptable and no need to kick up a fuss - or even mention it

Because this is what happens with women

So you have the problem if you bring it up .... because you have the problem if you think there's something wrong with it

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.

And .....

It's all relative

Me: I'm getting tired of all these teenagers in here with drug issues. We sure seem to have a problem with this in society.

Co-worker: It's all relative isn't it? You drink don't you? It's just like alcohol and anyway alcohol is the bigger problem - so the teen drug issue is insignificant

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.

You did/do it too ..... so you can't have a contrary opinion

Me: Gosh, these drunk teenagers are really an issue

Co-worker: Didn't you push the limits when you were a teen? Thought so ....so you can't really say that

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
Universalizing your experience. AKA: "I've never experienced this, so it clearly doesn't exist. If it happens to you, it's your fault."

Examples:

Poster 1: "My co-worker cussed me out in front of my patient."

Poster 2: "My co-workers have never cussed me out in front of my patient. If that really happened to you, it's your own fault."

Poster 1: My feet hurt at the end of the day. Can anyone suggest comfortable shoes?

Poster 2: "My feet never hurt at the end of the day. If your feet really hurt, it's your own fault."

Poster 1: "A family member tried to follow me to my car. I was scared. How can I prevent that from happening again?"

Poster 2: "I've never had a family member try to follow me to my car. If it really happened, it's your own fault."

LOL :lol2:

We call this mentality down here 'one way my way'

Nicer way of saying the poster #2 needs more education

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.
There better be cookies with that milk!

Yeah, Oreo cookies. How could a glass of milk and those yummy cream filled cookies, NOT calm a pt? Heck, it works for me!:D

Specializes in Urology, ENT.

#3) The "Well, if you have never had (fill in the blank), then you couldn't possibly know anything about it" Red Herring. This one assumes that, for example, if I have never had a broken bone, I know nothing about the appropriate assessment, treatment, and follow up for that condition. Unless I have had my arm ripped off in an industrial accident, I couldn't possibly know anything at all about how to treat that patient. Unless I have not personally experienced burns over 50% of my body, I could not possibly know what is the most critical thing that needs to be done with that person.

I never understood that. I've been told that because I'm not morbidly obese I obviously can't care for them or wouldn't be able to specialize in their care. What does not being or experiencing A have to do with completing B? I've always wanted to tell people, "...I thought I was here to take care of you, and what do YOU care if I've been fat? None of your business!"

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