shootings and mental health - page 6

Does anyone else agree that the USA needs to get their act together on all issues of mental health? The lastest shooting could have been prevented if only the perpretrator could have been treated... Read More

  1. by   teeituptom
    You know Ive heard people refer to this Cho guys as wacko, crazy, schizoid, delusional, antisocial, sociopathic, Asbergers, Autistic.etc. Ive also heard people complain about the lack of gun control in this nation and how easy it is to get firearms. Now I would like to bring up a point of a different perspective totally.
    If other people around had been carrying guns also, They could have dropped Cho in his tracks before he had shot many people at all. Maybe the death and injury toll would have been far less. Not counting adding Cho to it.
    Now I never carry a gun at work, but the rest of the time I am almost always carrying a gun to protect my self and family. As an example, several years ago some nut job went bananas and started shooting up a restaurant here in Texas. Yes he got several people then an armed bystander, stopped him from hurting even more people, children included.
    Dont take my guns away


    teeituptom
  2. by   Fuzzy
    Don't worry Tom. I won't take your guns away. Gun Control just makes so law abidding citizens can't own guns. Only the crooks will have guns. Plus if people want to kill themselves and others they don't need a gun to do it. Timothy McVeigh used a homemade bomb. The psuedoreverand Jones used poison. The terrorists used airplanes. A person could burn down a building full of people also. See there's many ways to take out a group of people. You don't need a gun. Gun control doesn't prevent violence.

    Fuzzy
  3. by   psychRN33
    Snowfreeze commented that mental illness remains a "closet illness". Until all healthcare providers acknowledge and the public understands that mental illness is biologically based, not merely a human fraility, mental illness will remain stigmatized. Consequently mental illness will receive marginal attention, treatment and advocacy.
  4. by   allantiques4me
    Quote from snowfreeze
    Does anyone else agree that the USA needs to get their act together on all issues of mental health? The lastest shooting could have been prevented if only the perpretrator could have been treated properly. He refused, and no one could do a thing about it due to his rights. Well he violated 33 peoples rights to live when he snapped. What can we do as health professionals to educate the public and change some laws in the favor of treating these troubled souls.
    Mental illness remains a "closet illness".
    I agree. I work in a facility with abused children suffering from physche issues.I also live in the inner city wher i do see alot of mental health isues.A lot of drug abuse.Its so sad that these people are trying to treat themselves with these awful street drugs.They should have been able to access some mental health services.It could have prevented a lot of bad decisions on thier parts.
  5. by   SoxfanRN
    Quote from allantiques4me
    I agree. I work in a facility with abused children suffering from physche issues.I also live in the inner city wher i do see alot of mental health isues.A lot of drug abuse.Its so sad that these people are trying to treat themselves with these awful street drugs.They should have been able to access some mental health services.It could have prevented a lot of bad decisions on thier parts.
    Approximately 50% of people with schizophrenia use illicit drugs. Many of these people cannot work or can only manage lower-end jobs. This is certainly not enough money to support a great place to live in a great neighborhood. Many people with mental illness live in areas that are drug-ridden because that is all they can afford, even with government supplementation. Add in the cost of medications (ie. $400/month for Depakote ER) and cost of living that we all struggle with, and you have non-compliance, bad influences, crime, and drug use. Deinstitutionalization was a dis-service to many people with severe mental illness. There just are not enough public support systems in place to adequately manage severe mental illness.

    The places I used to go to give my mental health patients meds when I was a visiting nurse would make most people cringe.
  6. by   banditrn
    Quote from teeituptom
    You know Ive heard people refer to this Cho guys as wacko, crazy, schizoid, delusional, antisocial, sociopathic, Asbergers, Autistic.etc. Ive also heard people complain about the lack of gun control in this nation and how easy it is to get firearms. Now I would like to bring up a point of a different perspective totally.
    If other people around had been carrying guns also, They could have dropped Cho in his tracks before he had shot many people at all. Maybe the death and injury toll would have been far less. Not counting adding Cho to it.
    Now I never carry a gun at work, but the rest of the time I am almost always carrying a gun to protect my self and family. As an example, several years ago some nut job went bananas and started shooting up a restaurant here in Texas. Yes he got several people then an armed bystander, stopped him from hurting even more people, children included.
    Dont take my guns away


    teeituptom
    Ahhh, someone that GETS it!! No, we'll never be able to stop the whackos from doing what they're going to do - but we CAN try to lessen the impact a bit - or even up the odds.

    No, I don't carry a gun - I've not been trained in the proper use of weapons, and I have an essential tremor that would make it difficult to aim or hold one - but I sure hope you're around - or more like you, the next time some Cho type goes off.
  7. by   coral0033
    RE: Shooting and Mental Health.
    Yes Snowfreeze i do agree USA should get it's act together where mental nursing is concerned; now the latest is you have the Police using Tasters to stun individiduals who presumably are mentally ill.
    I wounder will they do such to an animal that has gone berserk?
    Last edit by coral0033 on May 28, '07

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