Religion's Place in Nursing - page 24

I often read Billy Graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. I'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (Please, no... Read More

  1. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from ChrisA
    Personally, my deepening religious (and spiritual) life is part of what is propelling me towards nursing. I've essentially been becoming more and more active the Episcopal Church over the last two years, and part of my growing spiritual understanding includes two concepts:
    "God has no hands but our hands, no feet but our feet, no voice but our voices"
    and
    "Your vocation sits in the intersection between that which brings you the most joy, and that which the world most needs"

    So, sitting at my computer desk writing software like I do: is this answering this call? No, not in my heart, it doesn't. Nursing does. So I'm taking a run at it.

    Now, I don't think that one has to be Christian to be a good nurse, nor do I think you have to have a particularly religious or spiritual nature. The important thing is that you're a caring person, capable of operating in a place of love and compassion. The important thing is that you are capable of care. For many, religion helps. It helps me. I'm proud of that. I certainly don't think it's required, and I certainly don't think I have a monopoly on the truth. Does this help answer your question?
    Excellent post. Especially this part:"I certainly don't think I have a monopoly on the truth."
  2. by   leslie :-D
    even though the topic is "religion's place in nursing", the poster ends her thread with the question of spirituality, which i hope remains the focus. no disrespect intended but there's another active thread re: religion and nursing.
    sigh........
  3. by   GreenWitch
    Quote from dlscott
    .....I will tell you who dies the easiest and most peaceful...the Christians. The non-Christians usually die with more pain, angry and have a hard time reconciling the fact that they are dying.
    So, are you saying that ONLY people of the christian faith die in peace and not any member of any other faith? Or are you referring to athesist?

    Living in a multicultural community, and being OPEN MINDED to the community in which I live and work, I know many people of many faiths. What I have seen is that if people are comfortable with their religious choice (or choice of NONE) they have died at peace. The only people I have seen die upset were the one's who were still wondering about it all...

    )0(
  4. by   sbic56
    Quote from earle58
    sorry sbic56, i called you sbchic...

    leslie
    Hehehe...I kinda like it; catchier than my real screeen name. It's comforting to hear a similarly minded person speak out. One can feel pretty alienated around here at times. (Not referring to you, Fran, as like I've said, you don't do that.)
  5. by   sbic56
    Quote from GreenWitch
    So, are you saying that ONLY people of the christian faith die in peace and not any member of any other faith? Or are you referring to athesist?

    Living in a multicultural community, and being OPEN MINDED to the community in which I live and work, I know many people of many faiths. What I have seen is that if people are comfortable with their religious choice (or choice of NONE) they have died at peace. The only people I have seen die upset were the one's who were still wondering about it all...

    )0(
    Indeed. To make that assertion that "cristians die easiest" is another example of how christains can misrepresent their faith by sounding pompous, all knowing and better than. Not a good thing to do when trying to recruit.
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    Unfortunately as in all things we only notice the stuff that bothers us. We complain when something we purchased is not up to par but rarely acknowledge that something we purchased is great.

    Having said that, I wish that folks wouldn't categorize all Christians as expecting you to be perfect and as someone who shoves their religion down your throat. My experience is so very different. The church I go to is very open and accepting and loving. I have had some experiences with Christians that you have described but the majority are not.

    steph
  7. by   sbic56
    Quote from stevielynn
    Unfortunately as in all things we only notice the stuff that bothers us. We complain when something we purchased is not up to par but rarely acknowledge that something we purchased is great.

    Having said that, I wish that folks wouldn't categorize all Christians as expecting you to be perfect and as someone who shoves their religion down your throat. My experience is so very different. The church I go to is very open and accepting and loving. I have had some experiences with Christians that you have described but the majority are not.

    steph
    You are so correct, steph. I certainly do not mean to finger all christians, but those who do behave badly seem to scream it from the roof tops, which is a bad thing for the majority of those who are respectful of others beliefs. I have close friends who are christian, but they do not tell me I am going to hell or attempt to persuade me to their faith. If they think it, they have enough respect for me to zip it and I appreciate that. I respond in kind. We don't talk about our differences; rather we enjoy our similarities.
  8. by   Monist
    Many people who come to nursing do so because they either know directly or sense that it is one of the greatest tools for building the Kindgom of God. Naturally, there will tend to be more Christians than any other religion for that reason.

    The Monist
  9. by   elkpark
    Many people who come to nursing do so because they either know directly or sense that it is one of the greatest tools for building the Kindgom of God. Naturally, there will tend to be more Christians than any other religion for that reason.
    ??? ???
  10. by   Paednoch
    [QUOTE=caroladybelle]So you are a devote believing Christian because fear of eternity...so that is the basis of your Faith.

    My faith is just that. I do not have Faith because I "fear" something...I have Faith in G-d because I believe in him with all my heart and soul.

    Not because of some trivial chosing between the lesser of two possible punishments. That would be rather poor reason to espouse a Faith.

    I could not ever espouse Faith in Christianity because of such a trivial reason. Faith is Faith. You cannot believe in something merely because it is the better bet. And you cannot force someone to believe in what they do not, because of some ambiguous fear of retribution.

    And the G-d I believe knows the difference.[/QUOTE

    I believe it is mentioned several times in the bible but Psalms 11 mentions that "fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom"
  11. by   Kyriaka
    I wouldnt agree with the last statement (emphasized by elk). Only you probably get more Christians because that is the prominent faith in the US.

    If you posted on a Chinese nursing board the faith would be differant, although the responses most likely the same.

    I try to treat others as I would want to be treated. End of story. Sometimes I achieve this. Sometimes I dont.
  12. by   camiluvsNURSING
    SO TRUE!!!!!

    Quote from Kyriaka
    Stitch,


    But I believe that your faith should show. You shouldnt have to talk about it. It should show enough for people to want to ask.
  13. by   shel_wny
    Yes, I did mix up spirituality and religion. I myself know the bold difference, but I will blame the late hour that I posted and the fact that I was quite ill with some sort of awful stomach flu. I assume already that everyone has their own sense of spirituality. Most of us here are old enough to have ventured in that direction sometime in our lives. So let's talk about religion.

    And yes, ChrisA, you did answer my question. Thanks.

    I'm still sort of floored about all the "God Speak" here. It's almost like the question of which comes first - the chicken or the egg. Which came first - the profession or the religion? Does nursing bring you closer to your religion? Do you hold onto your religion tightly as a means of getting through the pain and the death? Or were you just as religious before you entered nursing, or perhaps entered nursing due to "God's Will."

    Again, I mean to start no discussion of religion vs. religion and who is "100% saved." I couldn't care any less about that, honestly.

    And, Caroladybelle, I was using Christianity (which is about 90% of the religion I see around these boards) as an example of a religion. I understand that the words "religion" and "Christianity" are not to be freely exchanged.

    3rdShiftGuy, I understand that Christianity is the main religion in the US, though I would argue that up north it is Catholicism, but the southerners don't get to see that.

    Again, I hope that I clarified things and if anything is vague or contradicting, please ask me about it. My views are quite eclectic and though I refuse to get into religious debates, I am ever curious and ever learning.

    Shel

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