Raising minimum wage ..RN Salaries increase? - page 4

I am trying to wrap my head around ,raising the minimum wage /nursing salaries .In my area CNA 11/hour ,Lpn 17/hour,Rn 25hour . Recently they mandate RNs to have a 4 year degree ,which costs between... Read More

  1. by   pmabraham
    Quote from Dformola
    I am trying to wrap my head around ,raising the minimum wage /nursing salaries. This would force a increase all the way up.
    One of the many misinformation pieces of socialism is that it lifts people up when in reality, socialism brings everyone down. There's no requirement for any organization to pay skilled labor increased wages just because a government forces businesses to pay their unskilled employees more money.
  2. by   she244
    By paying low skilled workers equivalent to or more that a Nurse who has sit threw classes to get a degree it disheartening. Plus it leaves no incentive for them to better themselves by learning a skill or getting an education. I myself with only an ADN degree can relate. When I was hired it was for all the skills I have from working in the ER for 11 years. Plus adding Pulmonary Function Testing, Casting and Splinting Injuries and Picc Line Insertion to my skills. At 62 years old and researching the ADN to BSN programs and not seeing any actual core classes for skills in any of the programs I hesitate to pay $10, 000 for a degree that I will I will not use as I do not ever want to be in Administration or Teaching other than teaching patients about their health and medications. So I am torn between going ahead and retiring or realizing I will only be able to work in Long Term Care when I leave my present position.
  3. by   TriathleteRN
    Mini2544 Sounds like you are just fine with the massive inequality and division that continues to grow. It's ok for the 1% to continue to get richer while the poorer get poorer and the middle class disappears? This is really working out right now.
  4. by   nehneh14
    Quote from TriathleteRN
    Mini2544 Sounds like you are just fine with the massive inequality and division that continues to grow. It's ok for the 1% to continue to get richer while the poorer get poorer and the middle class disappears? This is really working out right now.
    Usually the people throwing around terms like "socialism" and "communism" actually have very little knowledge about what either actually are. These are usually the same people who bleat about "welfare queens", "trickle down economics", "Obama phones" and "hand-outs", with nothing but the most superficial notion of the reality of economics, poverty, segregation, institutionalized and structural racism etc., which belies their claims to be interested in investing in schemes to "help people better themselves." Let's start by getting everyone on an equal playing field and ensuring a living wage. All the doomsday predications about cities which have already instituted the $15 min. wage have been proven false.
  5. by   Mini2544
    Quote from nehneh14
    Usually the people throwing around terms like "socialism" and "communism" actually have very little knowledge about what either actually are. These are usually the same people who bleat about "welfare queens", "trickle down economics", "Obama phones" and "hand-outs", with nothing but the most superficial notion of the reality of economics, poverty, segregation, institutionalized and structural racism etc., which belies their claims to be interested in investing in schemes to "help people better themselves." Let's start by getting everyone on an equal playing field and ensuring a living wage. All the doomsday predications about cities which have already instituted the $15 min. wage have been proven false.
    I actually agree that most people who talk about socialism have zero clue what it's policies and structures are. However the ignorance is usually being spewed from those who are in favor of it. The answer to helping close the income gap isn't punishing the top earners, those are the ones who keep the economy afloat. And it's def not more social programs, we saw how well that worked over the last 8 years. Shall I even talk about the national debt this occurred? There is plenty of opportunity in this country for everyone.
  6. by   SharePRN
    Here is the thing about the economy when the minimum wage increases.....If people make more money, they SPEND MORE MONEY! So all those fast food places and ice cream shops have MORE business, therefore make more money.
    Productivity and profits have increased exponentially over the last 30 years but the minimum wage has laid stagnant. All the money that should have been going toward raises has gone to the owners, making them richer and richer. Want someone to be angry at, be angry at the owners of corporations, not the people doing the hard work every day. They deserve a living wage.
  7. by   HalfBoiled
    I would love to read research studies about the dangers of raising minimum wage.
  8. by   a1shif
    Seattle area here, living in the world of the $15 minimum wage. I make about 60% more than my previous job in another state. Jobs are definitely not scarce here which I feel shows that argument does not fly. My electric bill? $17. Food? Same cost. Gas? About $3/gallon. The housing is more expensive but not due to gouging. The demand is so high and the supply low because they can't build fast enough and there is one housing unit for every 3 jobs available. 85,000 people didn't move here last year because it sucks here. Transit is awesome. Crime not bad. Climate wonderful. Not enough people to fill all of the jobs of any type. Much happier workers in general.
    Last edit by a1shif on Oct 11 : Reason: Wrong spelling
  9. by   hherrn
    Quote from HalfBoiled
    I would love to read research studies about the dangers of raising minimum wage.
    Why don't you?
  10. by   hherrn
    Quote from Mini2544
    Sounds like you would enjoy living under a socialist regime. Let me know how that works out for you.
    When did butterfly suggest that?

    What was mentioned in the post were economic structures very common in countries with a higher standard of living than the US.

    If you don't believe me, ask Doctor Google who has a higher standard of living than the US, and have a look at their social and economic policies.

    Those countries really don't meet any reasonable definition of "socialist regime".
  11. by   HalfBoiled
    Quote from hherrn
    Why don't you?
    Because there aren't any.
  12. by   LibraSunCNM
    Quote from Mini2544
    There is plenty of opportunity in this country for everyone.
    Would that this were true. Unfortunately, the steady increase in income inequality over the last several decades in this country demonstrates that it isn't.
  13. by   Flatline
    Quote from HalfBoiled
    Because there aren't any.
    I'm not sure this is true. I remember from economics that there were entire sections of theory on this. I suspect that there are volumes of journals on this topic like many other economic topics. I'm no economist though.

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