Questions: Nurses leaving the Profession - page 3

I have a question about nursing. I am currently an elemenatary school teacher who has been accepted to Nursing School for Spring 2007. I read an old article in "Times Magazine", that stated that the... Read More

  1. by   RunningWithScissors
    Hmmm why are nurses so dissatisfied?? How about because (I am convinced) the hospitals they work for DESPISE them!! Office and salary workers get to take time off, for example, around the holidays (not just lucky enough to get to be OFF of the holiday itself) while it is forbidden for patient care staff to do so, even when the census drops predictably from year to year.

    Management and office workers also have access to premium parking lots which are CLOSED AND BARRED during the weekends and holidays when nursing staff have to work and they sit empty.

    We spend years and endure physical and mental hardships to do our job on the front lines as best we can, and don't see any recognition, while the same managemnet people pat themselves on the backs and take turns passing around the "manager of the quarter" award.

    I could go on, but you see the point..........
  2. by   Jackie01
    I dont want to start something here, but its my opinion that the reason nurses AND teachers dont get paid well and have it so hard is because its a field dominated by women. The PAs and MDs are generally men along with the Superintendents and Deans of the school systems. Sorry thats just what I notice. I agree with some of you about nursing. Im sick of it because the lines are blurred. "PATIENT CARE" can mean anything, and if you dont do it, I'm sure someone will find a way to punish you with the threat of ABANDONMENT or NEGLECT. Those words seem to keep us in check with the higher ups. I AM SICK OF IT.
  3. by   SweetieRN
    I think that nurses leave the profession because they simply get burnt out. Hosptial nursing is HARD work. Not only are we having to care for very sick patients but we are having to cater to their family members as well (thank you "family-centered care"). I have to find family members food, clean clothes (yes, they do ask!), fax documents for them, etc. and keep everyone happy. This is all part of "customer service". I'm all for visiting hours are OVER - get your butt out of here so the patient can rest and get better! We are constantly short-staffed and our facility has MANDATORY overtime, which leaves us very little time with our families. I can't tell you the number of 12-hour shifts that I have worked where I get NO BREAK at all and am lucky if I have time to use the bathroom once or twice. Some people may say that is just poor time management - but really it is not - it is REALITY. Not every shift is like that - but many of them are. I go home at night and I am mentally and physically exhausted. I have been doing this for 3 years and I am already looking for an "office" nurse position.
  4. by   banditrn
    Quote from anouk
    Please, don't take this the wrong way because I'm not trying to get into a who has a harder job debate, but teaching takes up a lot of your time, especially if you are a new teacher. You have to come up with lesson plans, grade papers, and fill out a lot of paper work. You also have to deal with angry parents and students. In addition to this there has been an upsurge in violence and sexual activity (even among elementary students!) For the amount of hours that one puts in, (for the lack of pay and abuse) it's extremelly difficult profession.
    Anouk - I have grandchildren - I've seen your job - I don't want it!!:smackingf

    You may not find it much different, tho, dealing with angry families, who think their family member should receive 1:1 attention, and to heck with the other patients.
    Your job description sounds eerily like that of a nurse!
  5. by   RNOTODAY
    I said it before , and I will say it again.... a nurse is a sucker position....
    Now, having said that, I am a nurse, and am generally proud to be one. But, mostly I like the fact that it provides a steady income to feed my kids, and house and dress them, and pay their tuition, and... etc....
    Yes, I am jaded. But im my relatively short career of 5 years, I have heard and seen too many examples of a nurse taking responsibility for something she shouldnt. Too many patients? Well, you are a nurse, are bound by your license and the law to not abandon those patients, and render safe care. Its too much work? Gee, I know, Im sorry..... but it doesnt change anything.
    I was at a treatment meeting last week at my other job (psych residential center for kids). Six kids are scheduled, each get an allotted 30 minutes, alone with the tx team. One kid had issues we hadnt anticipated, and went over allotted time. The MD said "Cancel so and so,(the next kid) I dont have enough time to render proper care since we went over with so and so"
    Just..........like...............that. When was the last tiime a nurse could even think about saying that? Never, and you never will. Like I said, a suckers job.
  6. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from RunningWithScissors
    Hmmm why are nurses so dissatisfied?? How about because (I am convinced) the hospitals they work for DESPISE them!! ..........
    I think you're right.
  7. by   RNforhire07
    Quote from SweetieRN
    I think that nurses leave the profession because they simply get burnt out. Hosptial nursing is HARD work. Not only are we having to care for very sick patients but we are having to cater to their family members as well (thank you "family-centered care"). I have to find family members food, clean clothes (yes, they do ask!), fax documents for them, etc. and keep everyone happy. This is all part of "customer service". I'm all for visiting hours are OVER - get your butt out of here so the patient can rest and get better! We are constantly short-staffed and our facility has MANDATORY overtime, which leaves us very little time with our families. I can't tell you the number of 12-hour shifts that I have worked where I get NO BREAK at all and am lucky if I have time to use the bathroom once or twice. Some people may say that is just poor time management - but really it is not - it is REALITY. Not every shift is like that - but many of them are. I go home at night and I am mentally and physically exhausted. I have been doing this for 3 years and I am already looking for an "office" nurse position.
    Too bad office nursing doesn't pay as well as hospital nursing..at least in my area I'd be forced to take a 10 dollar/hr pay cut!!

    And yes....not only are we expected to kiss the butt of the patient but we have to kiss the family's butt as well......in my facility once 8pm rolls around, I go around room to room and ask visitors to leave...the patient isn't on vacation for pete's sake!! LEAVE!
    you can bet you will be blackballed.You are pretty much darned if you do and darned if you dont in this profession.

    You got THAT right! I was fired two yrs ago for something minor....no allegations were EVER brought against my nursing license but since the firing facility has me listed as DO Not Hire, I am blackballed from every other hospital in a 50 mile radius!! NOT FAIR!

    Honestly, I'd rather drive a truck! Or a jitney at GE where my DH's niece is getting paid as much as I do. Me, an RN with 10 yrs experience, certification in my area of specialty (CCRN), ACLS, PALS and this girl gets paid the same amt of $$ to drive a jitney around for 8 hrs with BETTER BENEFITS, WEEKENDS OFF, HOLIDAYS OFF and TWO WEEKS paid vacation in the summertime!
  8. by   TXPEDIRN
    i left nursing 6 years ago to have children. we now have four girls ages 2 mo, 2 years, 4 yrs and 6 yrs. i will be returning to nursing in 2008 and am scheduled to attend an rn refresher course at the local university's school of nursing january-may.

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