Proposed Salaries For Nurses...

  1. In the event the bachelor degree program of study becomes effective for anyone desiring to become a RN, how much should we be paid?

    Give an entry level salary, then a list of proposed salaries for nurses beyond their first or second year of nursing.
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  2. 17 Comments

  3. by   fergus51
    I would be happy with 35-40 000 for new nurses. Then 55-60 000 for more experienced AND more educated nurses (like those with masters, specialty certification, etc.). Of course this would be with full benefits and a good pension.

    We are going to the BSN as minimum and the salaries range from about 28 000 to 40 000 which maxes out after 9 years of experience.
  4. by   live4today
    Thanks fergus for your input! I made almost $40,000.00 a year on my first STAFF job three years after graduation from my AAS/ADN college program! Are those American dollar amounts? If not, would you translate that amount into American dollars for me? Thanks!
  5. by   fergus51
    Those are the american dollar amounts. We can never afford the kind of salaries here that private health care systems can pay. It's a sacrifice I am fine with. I would rather make less money and keep universal healthcare than be richer and have a 2 tiered system like in the US.

    I honestly think 60 000 a year is very decent for an experienced nurse (although it obviously depends on the cost of living). I know I'm gonna get flamed, but I don't think a nurse needs to make more than that for what she does. That's almost as much as some docs in my area when you take office costs into account. While I think nurses are as important as doctors, I think if they want the same pay as docs they should go to medical school.

    Right now we max out at about 60 000 canadian which translates to about 40 000 American. That's the maximum in the province and it doesn't matter how high the cost of living is where you are.
  6. by   P_RN
    But now Fergus doesnt have to pay health insurance or as high income tax (do you ? ) Im guessing here.

    My first RN job I got paid $232 a MONTH after taxes. (1974)
    My next one -Hospital OR -$4.03/hr 1975
    Next was $4.00/hr (pay cut to go to Headstart) 1976
    Then it was $5.28/hr

    I left that one 22 years later making $25.00/hr 1999...so I imagine that $4 in 1976 is about equivalent to what $16/hr now?

    The whole point is.....at least for me not the money primarily but what you have to DO for the money and for that...the money isn't enough!

    I got 7% raises for every level on the career ladder, so I'd think each degree/experience should at least be equal.
  7. by   live4today
    Originally posted by P_RN
    But now Fergus doesnt have to pay health insurance or as high income tax (do you ? ) Im guessing here.

    My first RN job I got paid $232 a MONTH after taxes. (1974)
    My next one -Hospital OR -$4.03/hr 1975
    Next was $4.00/hr (pay cut to go to Headstart) 1976
    Then it was $5.28/hr

    I left that one 22 years later making $25.00/hr 1999...so I imagine that $4 in 1976 is about equivalent to what $16/hr now?

    The whole point is.....at least for me not the money primarily but what you have to DO for the money and for that...the money isn't enough!

    I got 7% raises for every level on the career ladder, so I'd think each degree/experience should at least be equal.
    Oh my goodness! (as Shirley Temple use to say as a child movie star) :chuckle Those hourly rates sound atrocious, P_RN! Wow! Have we come a looooooooonnng way or what! :chuckle

    I graduated in March 1987 with my AAS degree in Nursing. My first job paid me $11.01/hour on night shift. A few months later, I went to work for a local agency, and my salary jumped to $18.00/hour. Six months out of school, I took my first travel nurse assignment. I went to Hawaii! The agency paid for my housing, my travel was reimbursed, and I made about $20.00/hour in addition to all that. I have made up to $32.00/hour as a traveler up to the year 1992, add to that the free furnished two bedroom housing that I did not share with anyone but my little girl, free utilities, free basic telephone service (all I had to pay was the long distance bill), free travel reimbursement with each assignment, and other bonuses at times.

    My second staff job was at a military hospital. So from the early 1990's until January 1996, my salary ranged from $38,000 to $42,000/annually (that salary varied with my going from a GS-09 to a GS-11 on each job I accepted as a Department of the Army Civilian Nurse (DAC employee). Not bad to me, and I miss that salary soooooooooo much that I am willing to return to nursing to get it! :kiss
  8. by   fergus51
    Originally posted by P_RN
    But now Fergus doesnt have to pay health insurance or as high income tax (do you ? ) Im guessing here.

    You're right on one point, health insurance isn't taken out of our paychecks though we do have to contribute 36$ a month to be covered (this is because I am single, a family has to pay about72$) which works out to about 25$ US a month. This is why our income tax is way more than Americans though. Like I said, I think it's worth it and I would be very happy if I was making 40 000$US right now.
  9. by   KC CHICK
    fergus, nurses in my area are currently making 35-40,000/year starting as a new grad. I just graduated with my ADN last May and the starting salary for a new grad at my hospital is 37,000/year.

    What are the new grads being paid in your area?

    Anne
  10. by   fergus51
    New grads make around 28000-30000$US (in the 40 000$Canadian range). The starting wage is now about 25$Canadian an hour which is about 18$ US an hour. This is only in my province (BC). The conversions aren't exact because our dollar is getting lower and lower....I think 35-40000 US is just fine for a new grad. Obviously, experienced nurses should make more.

    Can I ask how much do you all pay for health insurance though?
  11. by   Level2Trauma
    For the past two years I have grossed over $40,000 (with OVERTIME). During this time I have to pay $174/month for my wife's insurance and mine is free for full-time employment. However, I am currently on educational leave and have to work a minimum of 20 hours a week. In addition, I have to pay an extra $100/month for my insurance while on educational leave for a total of $274/month.
  12. by   Bermuda
    Good morning" South Fla. here and the ave. starting salary for new grad. is about 35,000/yr. Not a BIG DIFFERENCE FOR asn OR bsn but as you climb clinical laddrer minimal compensation. To continue your ed is really for your own personal accomplishment bottom line. In the trenches ...work is work...you see that...it varies slightly per facility.....Not too much... :kiss
  13. by   KC CHICK
    fergus, I pay $15.00 per paycheck for my insurance.
  14. by   eldernurse
    Hey, I must be rich. I have grossed 55,000 with overtime this year. But with my TSA, insurance and taxes, I had a little over 14,000 put into my checking to live on and pay wage taxes. Oh, to have small children again (NOT)!

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