Please help...How can I handle my professor? - page 5

Hi, I need some advice. I have a problem with my nursing instructor and I don't know how to handle it. We were having our clinicals, 6 am, on Tuesday and as usual, we did our VS and PA on our... Read More

  1. by   GadgetRN71
    Quote from morte
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    About "tarred with the same brush", many people think tarring and feathering is the origin of that phrase. It's not. Tarring and feathering is an American practice dating from about 1740 or so. It had nothing to do with being black; it was a punishment of whites disapproving of other whites. British Tories, Socialists and tax agents have been tnf'd. "Tarred with the same brush" is a more European term from 100 years later. This guy says it better than I could:

    "The origin is the verb to tar, meaning to defile or dirty, known from the early years of the seventeenth century. The idiom appears in print first in 1818, in one of Sir Walter Scott's novels, Rob Roy: "They are a' tarr'd wi' the same stick-rank Jacobites and Papists." Our modern form appears in William Cobbett's Rural Rides in 1823: "'You are all tarred with the same brush', said the sensible people of Maidstone."
    The idea behind it is that two individuals who have been liberally daubed or painted with the same tar brush look much the same and so appear to have the same characteristics. The links of the colour black with matters that were detestable, dishonourable or evil also added to the negative sense."

    World Wide Words is copyright Michael Quinion, 1996-2007. All rights reserved.

    Site: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-tar1.htm
    this is not an example of idiomatic english that is used by any one i know, and perhaps not your former student either.....the expression that i am familiar with is "painted with the same brush"[/quote]I Have heard the expression "tarred with the same brush". I think some students use the racism excuse way too liberally. When I was a student, there were some students in my clinical group who accused the instructor of racism because she was tough on them...but she was tough on all of us. Obviously, racist terms should never be tolerated, but I think these days, everyone is just a little too eager to jump on the PC bandwagon. Just my 2 cents. Also, I agree that 8am is way too early to expect all patient care to be done. I think this goes back to old school nursing-where patients were "bossed around" by the nurses and didn't get a choice about when baths happened. I'm all for using gentle persuation and psychology to win patients over(I had a paranoid schizophenic patient who was refusing a bath..I told her it was a "secret beauty treatment" and made it seem like she'd be sticking it to the man if she accepted. She said yes to the bath ) but I will not command an adult to take a bath etc. In school, we had to get patient care done by 11am.
  2. by   TDub
    "I Have heard the expression "tarred with the same brush". I think some students use the racism excuse way too liberally. When I was a student, there were some students in my clinical group who accused the instructor of racism because she was tough on them...but she was tough on all of us. Obviously, racist terms should never be tolerated, but I think these days, everyone is just a little too eager to jump on the PC bandwagon."


    Thank you!
  3. by   purple1953reading
    I might concentrate on her asking me if she had passed meds with me yet, as she can't recall,or was she testing you? The fact that it was after 10 and your am meds weren't passed seems more important than when am care was completed. Am care cannot be accomplished by a certain time, with physcians , respiratory , post op visits, consult drs. seeing pts and hoping to get to office by 9am. If lab comes in at 5, as a patient I always took my bath, shower, etc then as it kept people from knocking on the door and interrupting me. IN additon, as a student, I always wondered how so any of those that were NOT good nurses were sitting at the desk, listening to things that did not concern them, and I was working my behind off trying to get linens, vs, check IVs, dressings, diet , insulins, etc,doing head to toes, and gettting all that charted BEFORE the dr made rounds, so the info was available to him before he saw the pt. I soon realized they did not do the work, the had their pts do own care, did not change beds, just smoothed them,made up much of head to toe, etc, YET nobody questioned them.
    I don't think making excuses, or explanations fixes much of anything , more likely to antagonize, as I think it did in your case. QUIET and respect speaks for itself. If I felt she truly discriminated against me,I would approach her privately, unlike she did you, and ask if there she could give you a plan or idea to accomplish all that she wants in what order. That you are willing to do what it takes to be the best nurse possible. IF that doesn't seem satisfying, keep meticulous notes, note when and in front of whom she made these comments ( just so if asked, they can reiterate what you have stated, not ask them to get involved, as everyones goal is to get through school. I certainly would do the best job,be prepared,and try to avoid giving the instructor anything to gripe about. My paper work would be impecable, I would never be late, I would not be seen lounging at the desk,and would always be the first to volunteer to help another student. I worked with a friend through school, we made beds together, after setting up each of our patients, who could, with bath basins, etc. Then went back and helped with backs, lotion, etc. Then f needed ambulated or helped them to chair at bedside.
    Anytime I entered a room,as a student or nurse, I always made sure to do a quick survery, made sure everything was within reach of patient, they had phones, call lights, tv control, fresh water, bedside table clear, etc. AND ASKED prior to leaving if they needed or wanted anything. THis freed me for usually an hour to chart, other patients, etc.

    School is a balancing act, esp, if trouble with instructor. Like drs. they tend to get away with alot more than we do. I once confronted an instructor about a treatment she told us that was old, and had been updated to be opposite in our text. SHE kept telling me it was a mistake, and she was right. I actually contacted the publisher, got their verification I was right, and gave it to her. DID NOT DO MUCH for her opinion of me. BUT it was principle. I had asked her why they would publish something in the books that were bibles to us, if it was incorrect. Turned out it was a question on a test, and she had counted me wrong. I made an A anyway, but principle.
    Sorry for rambling. Stand up for yourself, admit when you are wrong, apoplogize, thank those who help you. Just the other day I was wondering why kids did not say please, thank you , and you are welcome. IT IS A HABIT I was taught from the point I could talke, and it should be for all of us. GOOD LUCK<
  4. by   miss arron
    Quote from daverika
    do you expect your md or dentist to grovel, or even to offer an explanation when they see you 15 min to an hour late? (don't you just assume they were delayed for an important reason... an emergency or crisis?)
    yes, i do expect them to - b/c my dr's and dentists have always apologized for being late and explained the situation to me. as a nurse, i plan to do the same. everyone's time has value and by apologizing for taking up theirs you show you respect that.

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