Old Conviction? Dashed hopes? - page 2

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  1. by   Ann42
    A twelve year old knows better too. :-/
  2. by   nursenoelle
    Ann- I was arrested at age 18 for a petty misdemeanor. Disorderly conduct. I spoke with the director of the program, and the state board. All agreed that I was a stupid kid, that I had already been punished, etc. No problems except for beind horribly ashamed of myself. My record had been expunged ( meaning to go away) in 6 mos. after the incident. We were told that FBI checks will find those too. My applications have asked for ANY convictions. I am honest, write petty misdemeanor-expunged.

    Check your SBON web site. Most boards will not allow convivtions for sexual/assalut related crimes.

    Stop torturing yourself, and don't allow others to shame you. Nobody knows what was going on at that time in your life. I know for myself that that was the most frightening and humiliating moment of my life. Hope things are getting better.
  3. by   Ann42
    Originally posted by nursenoelle

    Stop torturing yourself, and don't allow others to shame you. Nobody knows what was going on at that time in your life. I know for myself that that was the most frightening and humiliating moment of my life.
    Thanks, Noelle. I know if it weren't for this conviction, I could easily have written the above post myself. I also feel very protective of those unable to protect themselves. I felt like crying when I read it. I recall a study done years ago which I wish I could get ahold of. According to this certain study, most people convicted of shoplifting NEVER steal again. The arrest, handcuffs and all, are just to humiliating. I don't know how the study was done, but I believe it. Those who do steal again and have repeated convictions are usually addicts after drug money.

    I know God has forgiven me a long time ago. I'm praying for Him to direct my steps. I'm also concerned about fellow workers using me as a scapegoat to blame when something is missing or when they decide to steal something. It must be irrestible for a thief to have someone on their floor with a conviction already. That scares me.

    My husband just gave me a pep talk, reminding me that God is in charge of my life and I just need to do what I have felt led to do; which in my case right now, is study study study. In fact, he advised me to stay off these boards, at least while school is in session.

    Thank you so much for all the hopeful and also not so hopeful responses. I need to be going into this with both eyes open.
  4. by   nessa1982
    I heard in my RN class as long as you report all former misdemeanors you should be fine.

    As a dumb butt 17 I also got busted for shoplifting. I wish it never happened, but it did. I dont steal anymore, and I will NEVER steal EVER again. I learned my lesson. One time I accidentally forgot to pay for a roll of tape at the post office (I got it to tae up a package and by the time I got to the front of the long line I forgot about it). I went back the next week and paid for it.

    I'm 21 now and from what I know this wont affect my future RN license, as long as I report it. I really wish I didnt have to though..its...sooo embarrasing. I guess we all have things in our life that were are ashamed of
  5. by   mattsmom81
    I work acute care so this may not apply to LTC. Today's background checks include past troubles with the law, past employment problems, and even credit problems, so this will be an issue that likely won't go away for you. Even one bad work experience in a 27 yr career can haunt a nurse forever and come up at every interview. It does me and I must grin and bear it. It is the nature of this profession, unfortunately. I have heard that LTC facilities may not be as stringent as acute care, and are more willing to give a nurse a chance.

    In an employment at will, right to work, nonunion state (like mine), employers can eliminate or fire someone for just about any reason they want as long as they're not violating the law. And they may not say it out loud, you just won't be called. I don't know what things are like in your area, though.

    I wish you well and I know people can change, but I fear this may well haunt you in this particular profession, where we are entrusted with peoples lives, and expected to be superhuman specimens....LOL!

    There is a shortage of nurses now but I don't know if this effects how HR judges a good nurse hire or not.

    Perhaps someone here with HR experience will respond as they are more in the know.
  6. by   RN2007
    Ann, I sent you a Private Message earlier today...
  7. by   Agnus
    But for the grace of God. There go I.
  8. by   Ann42
    Okay! I contacted the KY BON! They sent me a document detailing their policies about applicants with criminal convictions. If anyone would like a copy, pm me your email address and I'll send it to you. It's five pages of faqs.

    Someone mentioned they had a charge that had been expunged. This is what they say about that:

    "Do I report the conviction if it has been expunged?

    You do not need to report convictions that have been removed from your record as a result of a formal court ordered expungement. You must check with the court to make sure it was actually expunged before answering "No" to the conviction question on your application."

    It sounds like it's basically a case by case examination. I will be required to submit the following documents to the Board office:

    ~ A personally written letter of explanation
    ~ An official (certified) copy of the court record(s)
    ~ Additional information as requested

    I was encouraged yesterday when I discovered that a nursing home, near where I like,wants to hire me this summer as soon as I complete the NA course. Maybe my future won't be bleak afterall?
  9. by   karenG
    oh good news............I am pleased for you.

    Karen
  10. by   RN2007
    Ann, Great News!! Goes to show it is different based on the situation and probably based on the state as well. That is something that you do not have to mention the crime if it was esponged off the record. I did not think you would have any problem. My Friend, Best wishes on your great future, you will be just marvelous!!
  11. by   Ann42
    Originally posted by RN2007
    That is something that you do not have to mention the crime if it was esponged off the record. I did not think you would have any problem. My Friend, Best wishes on your great future, you will be just marvelous!!
    oops! I posted that part about a crime being exponged for the sake of another poster who said that something was exponged off of HER record. My record is still intact.

    I guess I'll just do whatever I have to do. And cross those bridges when I come to them. I honestly can't imagine changing my major or purpose for going to school. Since I've decided to become a nurse, I can't picture myself as anything BUT a nurse!

    Thank you for all the well-wishing! I hope all goes well for you too.
  12. by   Ann42
    I guess you know that I've been worried sick about this.

    Well, I found more info online, at my school's website actually, about the Kentucky BON policy of licensure. It actually had MORE info than the brochure the state sent me. Apparentally, I CAN be licensed as an RN! Because the crime is so old.

    This is what it says:
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    "(3) Submit a certified copy of the court record of each misdemeanor or felony conviction in this or any other jurisdiction and a letter of explanation that addresses each conviction, except for traffic-related misdemeanors (other than DUI) or misdemeanors older than five (5) years;"
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    My misdemeanor conviction is 7 years old! Mind you. It STILL haunts me. I'll still have to put it on applications that ask for that information....BUT I CAN STILL BE A NURSE!!!! *jumping for joy*

    Unlike some people who change their major at the drop of a hat, I cannot see anything else BUT nursing. We had our first day of clinicals in a LTC today for my NA class. I loved every minute of it! Even giving showers and putting residents on the toilet. I honestly think nursing is my calling (besides motherhood).

    Okay. I'll be quiet about it now.
  13. by   CATHYW
    Good luck, Ann! I am glad to hear that you see light at the end of your tunnel!

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