Nursing, No Longer A White Woman's Job?

  1. Discussion overheard at lunch today: ER RN (white female) "discussing" her opinion with Respiratory Therapist (white, male) and EMT (black, male) that within 10-years white women will no longer be in the majority as far as bedside nursing goes. Her argument was that women have more opportunities to go into other professions than when she was young (guessing she's in her late 50's) and that since we are importing nurses from "third-world countries" no white woman will be a bedside RN in the future. EMT agreed and said that it's not just white women, that he wouldn't want his daughter or son to be a RN. The RT kept quiet and continued to eat his tuna sandwich.

    So, I wonder, do any others of you feel that way? That is, that women (white, black, brown, etc) in America have more opportunities, more career choices now than ever before; and that the nursing profession will become the immigrant's first job in America?
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  2. 88 Comments

  3. by   joyrochelle
    wow...that's an unfortunate opinion to be heard...I mean, of course ALL women are getting more opportunities, but the fact that I am a "white woman" never entered my mind when I wanted to become a nurse.

    Too bad some people seem to think it a profession that is so easily passed off...of course if you can't handle it...then move on...

    ....to administration!


    I love being in L&D ....and so far ( from my fairly virgin voice) I really like being a nurse! In fact when i don't have some *mean* "50's- something" nurse standing over my shoudler just waiting for me to do something wrong, I LOVE being a nurse.....



    luv---joy
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    frankly i would not care the color, creed, religious conviction, sexual orientation or age of the person caring for me as long as he/she is competent and caring. and if we cannot draw such people into the profession from our own country, demand will make it such that they will come from overseas....it is happening already. like i said, competence and caring....they are what matter to me. not the other "stuff". just my less than 0.2 worth.
  5. by   jevans
    I felt so cross to read your post

    NO nursing is about caring, empathy and having professional skills and knowledge not about the colour of one's skin!

    the reason we need to employ nurses from the third world is due to shortages in qualified nurses. I know that in the Uk the powers that be decided in the early 80's that there were too many student places to meet the demands. It was at this point we were fighting to get jobs.{I know cos I was one of them.] What the powers did not take into account was the increase for demand in the late 90's after all we are a population of aging societies.

    Yes today women have more oportunites but there will still be people like ourselves who want to be nurses

    If I had overheard such a conversation I would certainly address this matter with senior management because little minds breed and should not be given an opportunity to do so

    Best wishes and continue to be a caring nurse
    luv
    j

    :kiss
    Last edit by jevans on Jun 22, '02
  6. by   LasVegasRN
    Originally posted by jevans
    ....because little minds breed and should not be given an opportunity to do so...
    !!!
  7. by   adrienurse
    Big fricken deal. I don't understand how this would bring concern to people's mind. Those who feel threatened by change in the face of any profession, whether actual or perceived, have bigger problems then just job competition. It's this kind of thinking that is the cause and will continue to be to cause of so much unnecessary disharmony within our profession.

    - strange white girl
  8. by   Sleepyeyes
    Gomer, honey,

    puhhh-LEEEEZE don't go there...
  9. by   911fltrn
    Im not a woman and dont have any plans to change into one. I second the opinion, all i care about is that your a somewhat caring nurse and a very competant one.
  10. by   joyrochelle
    Originally posted by jevans
    I felt so cross to read your post Joy

    NO nursing is about caring, empathy and having professional skills and knowledge not about the colour of one's skin!

    the reason we need to employ nurses from the third world is due to shortages in qualified nurses. I know that in the Uk the powers that be decided in the early 80's that there were too many student places to meet the demands. It was at this point we were fighting to get jobs.{I know cos I was one of them.] What the powers did not take into account was the increase for demand in the late 90's after all we are a population of aging societies.

    Yes today women have more oportunites but there will still be people like ourselves who want to be nurses

    If I had overheard such a conversation I would certainly address this matter with senior management because little minds breed and should not be given an opportunity to do so

    Best wishes and continue to be a caring nurse
    luv
    j

    :kiss
    a bit confused here....cross at me? I don't know why...could you explain?
  11. by   Brownms46
    I agree with all the posters here...doing the happy
  12. by   Rustyhammer
    You know, I'm getting just a LITTLE BIT TIRED of reading and addressing race issues on the BB.
    I don't feel it serves a productive purpose and I feel it's silly to even bring it up!
    Lets move on people!!
    -Russell
  13. by   LasVegasRN
    Originally posted by Rustyhammer
    You know, I'm getting just a LITTLE BIT TIRED of reading and addressing race issues on the BB....
    -Russell
    Amen!!
  14. by   KBaldwinLVN
    ) As a new poster a week ago, I posted a response on another thread that in retrospect could've been worded more 'friendlier". So with this in mind, please bear with me as I try to be more careful and aware of the words I choose. It's not my purpose to offend anyone...


    I find healthy dialogue about ackward, overwhelming and often "swept under the rug" topics of racism, ethnicity and culture within the nursing realm refreshing. Why? Because forums such as this does not exist at my job. It probably would in fact serve a better purpose, there in the midst of it all, but it ain't there. Nor do I feel comfortable walking up to other nurses starting conversations of this magnitude.

    So with that being said, why is it so easy for a few of the senior posters to state things that refer to the thread as beating dead horses and tired issues? The threads are usually filed with insightful information, and though some I disagree with, most points are very valid. I've learned some things from a few of the ones that where deemed "tired".

    The "Same ole rehashed stuff" reminds me of what my older sister would tell me when I was excited about something new. Nothing was new to her, because she had "been there and done it" way before me - Her younger sister. Why take the validity out of another's find? OK...Without beating around the bush any further, wouldn't if be better to move onto another better suited BB thread without the "Oh Lord" speech? I understand and respect that EVERYONE'S opinion is honored and heard here, but at some point if the "topic" is useless to you.... Then the thread isn't for you.

    REITERATING that I'm not trying to single any one poster out nor am I trying to offend any one. Just merely stating my own opinion.

    2) I do see less Caucasian women on the hospital floor, partially because I agree that there are more avenues in healthcare to affiliate with. Administrative Nursing (Case Management) seems to be the wave for those who enjoy nursing, but want less bedside care. Also with all the regulatory "stuff" that by law is mandated to be accomplished, more hospitals have created divisions and sub divisions of nursing to address how hospital goals are to be met. I see a lot of Caucasian women heading these departments.

    Additionally, it's hard not to burn out doing acute hospital care for years...and years.... and years...,without yearning to do something else and/or more. We spend so much time training for the nursing trade that once we are there, we don't envision leaving until retirement. We tend to move around within healthcare, which makes healthcare a leading trade - because of this flexibility.

    Does it bother me that nurses are recruited from outside the USA to fill these seemingly abandoned bedside positions? No. It's all about staffing and patient care. My only concern (not "beef" or "complaint") is the language barrier sometimes interferes with communicating with the patient or with others regarding patient care. But even with this drawback, I find it incredibly courageous for someone to leave their home, family and all that's known to live in a land where there's challenges, learn a new language and culture. I admire those who have succeeded and therefore give them a break when the nouns aren't quite right.

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