Nurses as day laborers (rant) - page 3

I was replying to another thread on the paltry pay we receive for working the weird hours we do, and it occured to me that, as a professional who holds so much responsibilty, my pay "bonuses" are... Read More

  1. by   RGN1
    Y'all want to try working & living on a UK nurses salary!!! Our reward this year will be another pay rise well below inflation - thus representing a pay cut in real terms whereas the police have already secured a pay rise that's double ours & they already earn 10,000 ($18,000 approx) per year more than nurses, this will take them to 12,000 more! Teachers earn 8,000 ($14,000 app) more!

    We are left as officially the lowest paid public sector workers in the UK & can't even afford to buy a house in over 95% of the UK!! Oh & we do have Unions, very vocal ones, but it's all talk & no action!

    My answer is that I'm voting with my feet & am leaving the UK to nurse in the USA. I know it's not perfect over your side of the pond but at least your wage is a living one! It may not be enough but you can live on it in most, if not all, parts of the USA, from what I've read & heard. Luckily, being married, I have a ridiculously high priced house (but I'm not complaining now) in London that will mean I'll have no mortgage in the USA, so that'll help with the cost of living for starters!

    I'll miss my friends, colleagues, job (that's the irony I'm actually quite happy where I work) etc but I won't miss the high taxes, low wages, congestion charge, traffic, parking restrictions, speed cameras, CCTV or weather!
  2. by   RunningWithScissors
    I want to work where Jennio is!!!!

    Part of MY problem, is I want to continue to raise my kids in "Mayberry" but want better working conditions/pay.

    You all know that small-town hospitals are SOOOO much more political/restrictive than big city hospitals, even if we DO have huge turnover rates!
  3. by   gerry79
    Hey RGN1 We just had a nurse return to England from our hospital in Boston. She was home sick.
  4. by   RGN1
    Quote from gerry79
    Hey RGN1 We just had a nurse return to England from our hospital in Boston. She was home sick.
    :roll

    Well I won't be going home!! Mind you I've had a house in the USA fro some 9 years now & already have a smattering of friends there, so I guess that'll help!

    I've a friend in Nashua NH (beautiful part of the USA IMO) & we spent a day in Boston last time I was over - lovely city - though the roadworks & subsequently the traffic queues were as bad as here! Still at least she could park the car!

    We've been friends since I met her when she was doing an exchange module at my uni way back in 1986!! So I've been coming across the pond every year virtually since she went back home. She's lived in San Diego - where she's from, San Francisco, Sacramento & now Nashua - so I've done both coasts!

    Our house is in Florida - typical Brit!!
  5. by   Mags4711
    Quote from RunningWithScissors
    ...We have SO MUCH legal and professional responsiblities sitting squarely on our shouldres, and our yearly merits are rewarded with compensation to the right of a decimal point. That is SO WRONG!!!
    In my institution they started a new clinical ladder system where you have to apply and put togther a professional portfolio including CV, reccommendation letters from fellow RN's and Exemplar(s) as well as a professional mission statement (different levels require different things, but that's the basics) in order to move up the ladder. You apply to your unit's manager and (s)he interviews you for level C (new grads are level A for 18 months, then you automatically move to a "B"), if you want a D or E you apply to a hospital-wide committee and they make the determination. At a D or E you have to justify staying at that level yearly. What male profession would allow this kind of thing? What male dominated profession would accept that in order to move up the ladder you have to justify your care and write stories about what you learn from your practice?



    Quote from RunningWithScissors
    Ladies, if you are a nurse, you are smart enough to make it through law school, vet school, or anything else you want to do. If I wasn't so old and had so many people riding on my salary, I'd switch professions in a heartbeat.
    I work with two nurses who were lawyers and went back to nursing because the law profession is sooooo saturated with lawyers. They make more as nurses than they did as a lawyer with lots less work to take home.

    I agree that there are times that I get very frustrated with how nurses are treated and I get tired of the politcal bs, but I'd get that working at Taco Bell.

    Reading this thread it's amazing to me the vast difference in our pay. From $29K to nearly $100K seems crazy, but I guess it depends on the market.
  6. by   Mags4711
    Quote from Kanani_Ikike
    I understand where you are coming from. I don't feel that the $29,000 a year (that's before taxes).
    I have GOT to ask, where do you work that you only make $29,000 a year??????? WOW!

    Is that for full-time as an RN????
  7. by   kate1114
    Quote from faithmd
    I work with two nurses who were lawyers and went back to nursing because the law profession is sooooo saturated with lawyers. They make more as nurses than they did as a lawyer with lots less work to take home.
    I can totally relate to that. My husband graduates in May and if he gets a job in this immediate area (smaller town, not a huge job market) he'll probably be making around $35-40,000 a year. Last year I cleared $48,000. At least he's not doing it for the money :roll :roll

    OTOH, it somewhat limits my career choices at this point, since I'd really like to get into something with research, teaching, and writing, and those really don't pay and the job prospects aren't huge.

    And I totally agree, Running, we would be able to have a lot more options if we wanted to move out of Mayberry, but we just got here from the big city 2.5 years ago and we're totally loving it
  8. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from ben123
    May I ask where you got your statistics from.

    My regrets at not being able to post the link.

    The major nursing magazines (AJN, Nursing 200X ), and this BB discussed the aforementioned stats on this about 1-2 years ago. It was a major splash.

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