No Nursing Shortage At The Present Time - page 12
I am assured that some of you are reading this and saying to yourselves, "Duh! This topic is old hat. We already know there's a glut of nurses in many parts of the country, so why are you writing... Read More
Jul 6, '12 by nursel56 GuideQuote from tothepointeLVNYou should make batches of it in your office if it ever comes to that -- the smell of caramel popcorn is so irresistible the old bats who finally got out of the way will all come back! --- no not that!!!!So by the time I'm a nursing manager I'll be begging people to come work for me. But I'll bring popcorn.
Boy, that was alot of posts to read through!
I have a nurse (LPN) working for me who refuses to believe there is any such shortage at all. I mentioned to her reading about it online, that it isn't like it used to be, that she (or anyone) couldn't just pick up and find a new job down the block. She actually thinks that because we work in a small city and she's used to large cities, THAT'S the reason why nurses are having difficulty finding work. Not a shortage, just a shortage of jobs because we're not in a metropolitan area. And I think she's seriously mistaken.
She is good at what she does and I have no desire to replace her at all, but I wonder what kind of a shock it'd be for her to find that even in the big cities, she'd not be all that desirable. I suppose it's a selfish streak in me that wishes she could be a tad more thankful she HAS this job and the attitude that "I can get a job in the snap of my fingers" is a bit much! Especially since the rest of the staff seems to have a clue.
She worked in hospitals at a time when LPNs were commonplace, and now they're a rarity. She's working in an ambulatory/office setting at a time when most LPNs have been replaced by medical assistants. And still she feels she can pick herself up, declare her salary, and have her pick of jobs.
Not sure whether to feel sorry for her lack of foresight, or envy her lack of healthy fear.
...and here I sit without so much as a kernel of caramel popcorn to my name.
Truly, a travesty.
Jul 6, '12 by tothepointeLVN*tosses a solitary kernel over*
I think the whole I can quit my job in a blaze of glory and have another one by the afternoon attitude went on so long it's almost unfathomable to those who haven't had to job hunt in a long time to consider they aren't hot stuff anymore.
I know a couple of actors/nurses who used registry nursing to support their acting "careers" now they are struggling actors AND nurses. They are still ok but can't no longer live the hollywood lifestyle they were used to with fitting work around auditions etc etc.
*catches the kernel and wishes for more*
Well, like I said, I'm not sure whether to envy her feeling of security and desirability or pity her lack of understanding over the current state of affairs. Particularly since she's not only not likely to find another job quickly, but as an LPN, she'd only be finding work at one of our local understaffed nursing homes (in those, there always seem to be openings).
I guess it's good she's solid with me
Jul 7, '12 by smartnurse1982, RNDo you guys believe people would still want to become nurses if schools did the right thing and told potential students"More than likely,most of you who are graduating will likely end up working in nursing homes or home care?"Reason I'm asking because community based care doesn't pay as well as hospital based nursing.
Jul 7, '12 by smartnurse1982, RNOne more reason I think there is a nursing glut is because the schools are graduating people who don't belong there at all.At my school there were people who graduated with all C's.My school would also curve grades a lot.The students who were more social passed even though they got bad grades and always failed tests.My school always put more emphasis on nursing skills rather than grades,so that the students who did terrible on the class portion but did great in the clinical portion still passed. I know lots of nurses who are great at skills but terrible about giving out correct info or don't know basics about common diseases.Some jobs have wised up though. I would say over 75% of nursing jobs I had applied to in three years have asked for transcripts. This is a recent thing that I read nursing jobs do nowadays to weed out some applicants. I alsocame across a few that ch. eck credit reports
Jul 7, '12 by morteI know I typed another post to this thread.....apparently it was lost....in some manner/way.
Yes unrestrained capitalism, that is unrestrained by ethics, morals, or law, does not work.
I can remember reading a quote once, I think it was a grandson of John D Rockefeller, that his grandfather had not broken any laws, but a lot of laws were passed because of him.
How about "Truth in advertising"?
Jul 7, '12 by jamie.glazeQuote from smartnurse1982That's it - pass the popcorn... if I didn't JUST get a new grad job I wouldn't be able to in that case, bcause they would weed me out based on credit without ever knowing that it was because my husband left me the 1st day of nursing school with two kids, no job, and no child support... but then again - I still have my "GroupOne" background check pending... ughOn I alsocame across a few that ch. eck credit reports
I understand it's a weed out process but WTH does credit have to do with being a nurse? Sometimes credit issues are a matter of circumstance, not irresponsibility. A credit check without knowing an applicant's true background is in poor taste... but that's just my
Jul 7, '12 by tothepointeLVNFrom what I can understand they use it as a way of telling if your irresponsible of if you might be in a position to be tempted to steal from your employer. I guess it's more intended to be used in positions where your directly handling cash. But is it irresponsible when you suddenly don't have money IDK. Maybe they are looking for specific things like gambling debts or medical collections.
Jul 7, '12 by TheCommuter, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorQuote from tothepointeLVNSome credit reports also list previous employers. Therefore, companies can sometimes tell if you are being dishonest about your work history if they see a job on the credit report that you failed to mention.Maybe they are looking for specific things like gambling debts or medical collections.
Many people with checkered work histories try to hide some of their past, but the credit report may potentially expose any lies.
Jul 7, '12 by kcmylornMy advise(re: credit reporting , employment applications and crdit cards)- file for banckruptcy- they take those little cards from you right then and there. Then you have to pay every thing in cash. "My lips are sealed" Bankruptcy does have it's privlidges.
There was a case maybe 2 years ao of an unemployed father( he had custody of his young boys) who was trying to get a job but continued to be turned down due to his poor credit history which was due to his inablity to pay his bills which was due to his unemployment- the catch 22 effect. i think it was with that that companies were forced to not rely so heavily on the the almighty credit report
I wonder if the transcript thing is not because of the 'language' in some job postings " Must be a graduate of an NLN or AACN accredited school of professional nursing"Last edit by kcmylorn on Jul 7, '12