New nurses wanted.

We need new nurses. We need people with strength of character, intelligence, and drive. So who says they're being driven away? Nurses General Nursing Article

I have just read a post in a Nursing Specialties forum on Staff Development that makes reference to the need to recognize and nurture new nurses because the nursing-eat-their-young attitude is so widespread. I went to respond to that but realized it might see more eyes here.

As a clarification, it is critically important to know that someone who has a bad experience is likely to tell the story 25 times, while someone with a good one is likely to tell that story only 5 times. If therefore you apply this algorithm to the posts complaining of wretched treatment at the hands of old meanies who don't remember what it is to have a dreeeeaaaammmmm and passsssssiooonnnn, then you come out with a more realistic picture.

Language is also critically important. Using words like, "It has been a chronic problem that has driven new nurses to leave nursing areas they had aspired to work in, and oftentimes caused new nurses to leave the nursing field entirely. No one knows how many talented people have been driven from the field of nursing, but it seems to be a widespread problem if all the articles and discussion in nursing forums is representative of most nursing environments" makes assumptions on facts not in evidence. "Seem(ing) to be a widespread problem" only works if you believe that "all the articles and discussion is representative of most nursing environments." (emphasis added here and below). Data, please. What's the source of that information?

There are many threads and posts on AN that describe awesome experiences and workplaces, yet this assertion of "all the articles and discussion" clearly ignores them. There is ample evidence of older nurses here and at work supporting, teaching, and mentoring younger ones, on their own time, for free, late at night when they ought to be in bed, precisely because they want to nurture new nurses. We know they are our future, and we want them to be good. At the same time, there are multiple posts from new nurses that can bitterly dishearten the seasoned thoughtful practitioner, posts that indicate low levels of preparation, high levels of neediness and entitlement, unrealistic expectations of the realities of bedside work, and inability to adapt to the labor market.

Those older, seasoned, and experienced practitioners express their dismay at these attitudes in many ways, from light-hearted banter to bitter and heartbroken rant. The resulting wails are instructive-- and demonstrative of a problem that has generally nothing whatsoever to do with young-eating. Perhaps some of those "many talented people" (in whose estimation? their own?) are "oftentimes" "driven" away by other factors than this seriously-overused and incredible (in the definition of the word, meaning, "not believable," not "rad, totally awesome, duuude") sound bite. Beware the shallow thinker who prefers sound bites to thoughtful analysis; do not be that person. We need better critical thinking in nursing. It can start here.

Those of us older and more seasoned nurses know better than to discourage all new nurses from practice. We, better than they, have a clearer vision of being in those beds rather than beside them; we, better than they, have a larger perspective on the world of nursing care. We have already been new nurses. We have already been managers. We have already taken the responsibility of being charge nurses. We have been years at bedsides. We have already seen and participated in disasters, codes, deaths, family tragedies, fights, and labor actions. We know what it takes. We know we need more of us, as we age and leave because we are not able to do it anymore.

We can be pardoned for being scared to death of those soi-disant (this means, in translation, self-described) "talented people" who are unable to (for lack of a better word) hack it at the bedside and do not understand, or try to understand, from whence we come. The perennially-aggrieved give us heartburn; we have no patience with them, we don't have time. We are scared of what will happen to us and our loved ones when the self-esteem movement leaves us with caregivers that need more validation from their patients than they have the fortitude to learn to give them.

We welcome whole-heartedly, unreservedly, new nurses who are willing to put their education in its proper place, planning and providing competent care. We love the one who doesn't come in and say, "I'm just working here for a year so I can go to ICU and then go to CRNA / NP school." We want good nurses; we are willing to help new nurses who want to work wherever there is a need even if it's not their dreeeeaammmm job, and work hard, to grow. We want to work with people who don't have such a twitchy trigger finger, ready to go off with a bang over the least perceived slight. We want colleagues who believe this: Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. (~Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Anyone who wants to be a nurse who has the strength of character to do that, we're ready for you. Are you ready for us? We are already here.

Specializes in geriatrics.

I'm not being flippant at all. While experienced nurses are expected to mentor, ultimately, the success lies with the student. He/ she needs to be willing to learn and demonstrate initiative, otherwise the teaching won't be very successful. I gave that example for a reason, because in a nutshell, had I not been willing to learn, those nurses would have cut me loose. Their first priority was their patients, especially in settings such as acute, OR, ER. There is no time to worry if you're offending a newbie/ student in these settings. There are other priorities. Sink or swim.

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.
I'm not being flippant at all. While experienced nurses are expected to mentor ultimately, the success lies with the student. He/ she needs to be willing to learn and demonstrate initiative, otherwise the teaching won't be very successful. I gave that example for a reason, because in a nutshell, had I not been willing to learn, those nurses would have cut me loose. Their first priority was their patients, especially in settings such as acute, OR, ER. There is no time to worry if you're offending a newbie/ student in these settings. There are other priorities. Sink or swim.[/quote']

People not wanting to learn is a whole other thing in general. I know people are busy, I don't expect them to stop in the middle of a code to explain things to me etc...... I don't expect them to do much talking to me period during a critical time..... I get it. You've got to take care of business first. The argument is that you don't have to be nasty to emphasize that you will have to explain things a little later. When i was precepting on the CVICU, my preceptor, who was known for saying what she feels, was great at just looking at me and saying, I'm not going to be able to explain very much right now until we get this pt. stable and when we get time later we can talk about everything. She said what she had to say in 5 secs and we carried in worth no problems at all. She was shift supervisor and awesome.

Another point is that individuals can't be overly sensitive in a field such as nursing I general. You'll get you emotions torn to pieces in nursing if you "wear them on your sleeve". I don't go to work thinking that I'm just going to have a jolly good time every moment and that ill get along with everyone, bc people are different. I do expect for mutual respect to be in play when I work.

I don't expect them to do much talking to me period during a critical time..... I get it. You've got to take care of business first. The argument is that you don't have to be nasty to emphasize that you will have to explain things a little later. I'm not going to be able to explain very much right now until we get this pt. stable and when we get time later we can talk about everything. She said what she had to say in 5 secs and we carried in worth no problems at all.

I do expect for mutual respect to be in play when I work.

In a nutshell, this is exactly what us new nurses deserve. Everyone deserves this respect.

Specializes in ICU.
I'm not being flippant at all. While experienced nurses are expected to mentor, ultimately, the success lies with the student. He/ she needs to be willing to learn and demonstrate initiative, otherwise the teaching won't be very successful. I gave that example for a reason, because in a nutshell, had I not been willing to learn, those nurses would have cut me loose. Their first priority was their patients, especially in settings such as acute, OR, ER. There is no time to worry if you're offending a newbie/ student in these settings. There are other priorities. Sink or swim.

Hmmm....

Perhaps it truly is a very rare nurse indeed (or person in general) who is skilled at not only prioritizing their patient's needs, but also managing the rigors of mentorship with grace and respect.

This discussion has made me appreciate my preceptor even more (if that is even possible).

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.

Hmmm....

Perhaps it truly is a very rare nurse indeed (or person in general) who is skilled at not only prioritizing their patient's needs, but also managing the rigors of mentorship with grace and respect.

This discussion has made me appreciate my preceptor even more (if that is even possible).

I am wondering the same thing metal monk. I feel the same way about my preceptor.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
That may be true. But that's no excuse for bad behavior. The only thing a person can control is their own reaction. If someone chooses to react poorly when other options exist, they can and should be held responsible for that.

Experienced nurses may or may not have much control over administrative decisions and process, but that's not what some of us are talking about here. We're talking about individual behavior, which the experienced nurses have ultimate control over (if they honestly don't have ultimate control over their own behavior, then they probably should not be entrusted with the lives of others - so I will assume that they do).

Much as he/she might like to try, not even the experienced nurse can legitimately blame administration for his/her behavior, so why should I?

I agree it doesn't excuse bad behavior. I don't tolerate bad behavior......but I also believe that there is a generation of everybody wins that cannot take any criticism and believe that if they don't get a standing ovation for just arriving at work need to realize that in the real world this just ins't possible any more.

I see this in my children generation that children are very seldom taught how to just buck up and move forward.

This is just my opinion....as humble as it is.....:)

Specializes in ICU.
I agree it doesn't excuse bad behavior. I don't tolerate bad behavior......but I also believe that there is a generation of everybody wins that cannot take any criticism and believe that if they don't get a standing ovation for just arriving at work need to realize that in the real world this just ins't possible any more.

Yes, there was a pervasive "everybody wins" indoctrination of children at one time. Some of this still exists in varying degrees.

However, so seldom do the people who rally cry against the "Everbody Wins" generation ever acknowledge which generation(s) were actually handing out the trophies.

That's the problem I see here.

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.
I agree it doesn't excuse bad behavior. I don't tolerate bad behavior......but I also believe that there is a generation of everybody wins that cannot take any criticism and believe that if they don't get a standing ovation for just arriving at work need to realize that in the real world this just ins't possible any more.

I see this in my children generation that children are very seldom taught how to just buck up and move forward.

This is just my opinion....as humble as it is.....:)

Esme

I can agree with your statement. More people in general, now days, seem to have an exaggerated sense of entitlement. This is not the sole cause of "Nurses eating their young"/workplace bullying though. There are most definitely multiple factors from both sides of the "fence" that contribute to this issue. Good point though!

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.

Funny this pops up on the allnurses Facebook page.

https://allnurses.com/nurse-colleague-patient/why-do-people-818176.html

Talks about bullying In Nursing and how it's been impacted.

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU.

Well said Grn tea.