Med/Surg is Kicking my Butt

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I've been an LPN in LTC for a little more than a year. Left to go to a hospital. I'm on a rural med/surg unit where we get a little of everyone and do a little of everything. Tele, peds, and the ubiquitous old folks with the ubiquitous old folks exacerbations of various comorbidities. I'm entering week 4 on the floor. I come from a BIIIIG city and have been told more than once that this a a big part of the problem - including by my NM, who comes from the same city and had a lot of the same problems when she started up here.

After working a few days with my first preceptor I posted an "I Love Nurses!" thread. My NM changes my preceptor. Come to find out the she said I am unsafe and overconfident. No examples, just a "feeling," and she doesn't want to be responsible for me.

I am assigned random preceptor for the next few days. Five preceptors in two weeks. Preceptor two is a great fit. I'm happy. Preceptor Three not so great. I was syaing all day, "I'm not doing well," and all day she's telling me, "It's all good."

Next day I'm back to Preceptor Two. She's off with me. I ask what';s wrong, she tells me she has been told by Two that she has to take this "very seriously" and she's cold. Blows me off for break and lunch. By the end of the day she is yelling at me in the nurses' station. This goes on for a week. She is treating me so badly that I at one point end up sobbing in a vacant room. All of the other nurses are reporting her behavior to the charge and NM. I tell my charge, who agrees, that I need a new precptor. She agrees. Turns out Two has told the NM I'm unsafe. She had to remind me to use a wipe on a port once and once to wash my hands before I got a chance to. She has no examples other than these. She "feels" that I'm overconfident and unsafe.

I get a new preceptor (four). I really like her although she is the most anal nurse with whom I've ever worked. Preceptor Three, who poisoned Two against me, was charge this weekend. She gives us incredibly high acuity patients, even mentions that she shouldn't have given them to us together, and gives the same ones to us ystdy. I am LOUSY with IV's. Of course, these guys all have multiple meds and solutions running, and one had an MI while there (on nights) and is getting her orders changed every 10 minutes. Four ALSO has a second orientee for a total of six patients. One patient can't be left alone on the commode and I spent over two hours of my day ystdy watching to see that she pooped.

I got off of my 7 - 3 shift at 1745.

So my job IS in jeopardy, according to my NM, because 2 have said that I'm unsafe, and even without examples their "feelings" count. I have to make this work.

Help!

Please. And thank you.

Best case scenario: You finish orientation and get a little breathing room away from these other nurses. The other nurses finish their orienteering responsibilities and do things their way. Then maybe you will get to know each other's strengths and learn to work together as a real team.

politics.....UGH!!!!!:angryfire

Good luck to you

sue, this really is awful.

i'm so sorry.

to share the feedback i've gotten, is that i come across cocky, arrogant, "too" confident, self-righteous....you get my drift.

i've heard this all my life.

a few yrs ago, when i got promoted in my job, i was orienting with my replacement.

one day she said to me, "you need to always be safe".

that comment shocked me.

of COURSE i was safe.

i knew that.

when i elicited some feedback, she was concerned i didn't ask enough questions...

and by not asking questions, i came across as knowing it all.

no matter how much experience we have, i guess it can be perceived as threatening to others who are orienting us.

that even if we know a lot, there's still a lot we don't know.

i'm certainly not saying this is the case with you.

it's just another perspective from someone who told me to be safe.

i really wish you all the best.

people and their danged egos.

geez.

leslie

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

Of COURSE, I am on your side. I think that nurses are suspicious and maybe catty in general to the new kid on the block, and try to pick on people. I see this all the time. I think that I would ask them in a group what their issue is with me, because I hate waiting in suspense when my bread and butter is on the line. And, yes, because of what I know of your past situation, I am doubly empathetic.

when i elicited some feedback, she was concerned i didn't ask enough questions...

and by not asking questions, i came across as knowing it all.

I got that, and then got that I interrupted to ask questions. Gevalt!

I think it's going to be okay. I slept this afternoon and, as RNperDiem says, I'll get through orientation and get on with my life.

I'll get through this.

:)

Sue, sorry you are going through this, it wasn't this bad when I changed from LTC to hospital, mine is a small rural hospital too. I wish you the best, don't give up. Keep us posted on how things are progressing. And we are here for you. (((hugs)))

Well, I think the NM wants me to succeed.

They knocked me beck to two patients, from three. Much lower acuity than the weekend. Got truly "precepted," and am learning a tremendous amount from C, who is also patient and doesn't take me the wrong way.

Cross your fingers for me.

And thanks, all, for the support.

Specializes in Med/Surg; Psych; Tele.

Next day I'm back to Preceptor Two. She's off with me. I ask what';s wrong, she tells me she has been told by Two that she has to take this "very seriously" and she's cold. Blows me off for break and lunch. By the end of the day she is yelling at me in the nurses' station. This goes on for a week. She is treating me so badly that I at one point end up sobbing in a vacant room. All of the other nurses are reporting her behavior to the charge and NM. I tell my charge, who agrees, that I need a new precptor. She agrees. Turns out Two has told the NM I'm unsafe. She had to remind me to use a wipe on a port once and once to wash my hands before I got a chance to. She has no examples other than these. She "feels" that I'm overconfident and unsafe.

Hey Sue...well, I realize that from your last post, it sounds like maybe you'll be ok now. But, if they decide to 'flip the script' again...

1) Well, from that scenario above, looks like that preceptor is kinda discredited. Perhaps a gentle reminder of the concerns from other nurses (note plural) to your NM might be a good thing?

2) My strongest recommendation...Directly, privately, face to face, woman to woman, confront the naysayers. First of all, you would start by saying, "Miss X, I need to talk to you for a minute"...NOT "Um, Miss X can I talk to you for a minute if you get the chance today?" You get the point. And then simply express that you do not feel as though she has given you a 'fair shake' (as non-defensively as possible) and then ask her how she would like to proceed on to rectify this and start over.

I'm so sorry....my brain just turned to mush...don't know if any of the above made any sense at all. Third day in a row. Very hard day. Got threatened by another staff member on my way out the door :uhoh21:

Good luck! You'll be fine!

Thanks. Bt I tried confronting her the day it was happening, repeatedly, and she denied anything. She is, in a word, a bully, but a buly who doesn't stop when called on it. It's been interesting, though, because we now don't even acknowledge one anothers' presence.

I meet with the NM and my new preceptor this Friday. Cross your gingers.

:)

Sue - I'm sorry all this happened to you. The grass really ISN'T greener is it?

Sue - I'm sorry all this happened to you. The grass really ISN'T greener is it?

Same Stuff Different Day, with IV's.

:)

hang in there we have all experienced pretty much the same. Just keep reading and getting formalise with diagnosis. remember behind every dark cloud there is a silver lining; things normally work out and will make you a better nurse.

best wishes

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