Is Tramadol part of your Narc count?

  1. Just wondering. I work a couple of LTCs and LTACs as agency. Some places have Ultram in their lock boxes and its part of the narc count. Others have it in the regular pill drawer. What is your facility practice, and do you know the rationale for locking it up? Is it a highly diverted pain med?
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  3. by   morte
    Quote from Alibaba
    Just wondering. I work a couple of LTCs and LTACs as agency. Some places have Ultram in their lock boxes and its part of the narc count. Others have it in the regular pill drawer. What is your facility practice, and do you know the rationale for locking it up? Is it a highly diverted pain med?
    apparently, every once and awhile it does "go missing" when not on count......i wonder what the DEA thinks of having a noncountable in the narc drawer?
  4. by   Meriwhen
    It's in our narc box--we primarily use it in detox with phenobarbital.
  5. by   SunnyAndrsn
    no, it's not. No issues with refills, does not require pre-authorization for meds.
  6. by   XingtheBBB
    Well, although it's non-narcotic, it has some action as a Mu (opioid) receptor agonist. I don't think it's had much problem with diversion/ recreational use but I have heard of some. I seem to remember (but very well could be wrong) that it was C-IV when it first came out then was approved as a no scheduled substance? I was in peds when it was introduced so only saw it if I floated.

    Oh, and no, we don't count it where I work now.
  7. by   StNeotser
    I've never noticed them going missing. We do not count them.
  8. by   Alibaba
    Thanks for all the replies. Just think its weird that some places count it and some do not. This one place (LTC), I think the doc is in love with ultram coz in a count of 60, 15 are ultrams. Sooo time consuming. But I guess if it prevents diversion, then so be it.
    The other strange thing is that the pharmacy (omnicare) sends count sheets with the ultrams in one facility but the same pharmacy does not send the count sheets in another facility where they are not counted. So I guess each facilty has a different pharmacy protocol. Maybe I will speak to a pharmacist one of these days about it.
    Last edit by Alibaba on Oct 20, '09 : Reason: additional info
  9. by   SuesquatchRN
    It is where I am now.
  10. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    Tramadol is a narc at my job. Apparently, it was the pharmacy's decision.
  11. by   ElvishDNP
    Nope, not at my place.
  12. by   HM2VikingRN
  13. by   SwedishOmorfia
    No. Not in any of the hospital wards I've worked.
  14. by   TheCommuter
    I've worked in multiple facilities over the past few years. None of them have included Tramadol (Ultram) as part of the narcotic counts. The Tramadol typically is kept in the regular drawers with the other routine medications.

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