Is there a need for more male nurses? - page 6

As a new LPN graduate I constantly here "Congratulations, we need more male nurses." & "As a man most employers will hire you on the spot!"..... But it has been my clinical experience that there was... Read More

  1. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from LarryG
    Your lip service to using all resources doesn't persuade me for a New York minute, Honey Bunch.
    Internal inconsistencies in your position gives that away. In one phrase you mention the importance of diversity, and in the next you put down the largest minority in nursing. Sorry, but convincing that's not.
    Once again, who's said anything about testosterone alone? Or the "kill or conquer mentality"? Dream on, but do let us know from where you're pulling out these fantasies. Don't relate a bit to what we're discussing.
    And what's with the "cool ED dramas" "or exploring maternity" examples? What does that have to do with the price of tea at AllNurses? (Oh, and thanks much for the blessing you're giving all the boys who wish to pursue those opportunities. Gee, where would we be without your approval?)
    Ok, enter the next apparent nonsequitur: "(T)he little women need a man to show us how to do it right." P--L--E--A--S--E. There's not an inkling of that in the entire thread.
    And, My Lovely, kindly forgive me for pointing out that your conclusionary sentence certainly sounds a tad defensive.
    Happy to agree with you to disagree. However, what you're talking and what you're really thinking (based on the thought process you're evidencing) simply don't jive.
    If we really, really, really wanna improve things, we've gotta truly, truly, truly employ everyone that can assist. And we've gotta strive to remain open to new approaches. One descriptor of mental illness is to continue doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
    We should be joyfully embracing welcoming anyone that cares enough to put a shoulder to the wheel and help the larger cause.
    Good night, Sweetheart! Oh, and sweet dreams.
    If a man truly wants to be a nurse then more power to him-the male nurses that you feel I 'put down" are the ones that only want to deal with the "cool stuff "but when it comes to feeding and cleaning up BM and such they really aren't interested (and no-I did not say that all male nurse are this way-but I know many that are) Sugar lips-you ain't fooling me,either....What will happen to nursing if men don't enter in droves and straighten us all out? I guess us gals are doomed to having little credibility .....The funny thing is I had no problem with men in any area of nursing-until you mentioned the credibilty issue...Your true motives are crystal clear to me.....YOU inferred that men entering nursing will lend us credibilty-that implies that we are lacking in it....-We certainly DO need all the qualified nurses we can get....we don't need men with their own agendas...."credibility" my eye....So-......I don't see the need to continue beating the horse-he's down and dead...
  2. by   Altra
    Quote from Dixiedi
    After reading many of the posts that sound like they are trying so hard to avoid the actual question it's almost funny.
    Why would anyone be afraid to say YES! We DO need more male nurses. Not because a guy can get stuck with the heavy or combative pts but rather becasue man offer a different perpective on many subjects, nursing related and just in general.

    Yep, yep, yep!

    What I get tired of is the pretending that there aren't inherent differences in male-dominated environments and female-dominated environments. Of course there are. And both are limiting.

    To the OP - I do think that if I went on a job interview and the NM gushed over the fact that I were male, that would be red flag for me.

    Oh, and for what it's worth LarryG -- I get it about the credibility, and I agree. But I don't know ya, so I won't break out the pet names yet ... :chuckle
  3. by   LPN4Life
    Quote from MLOS
    Yep, yep, yep!

    What I get tired of is the pretending that there aren't inherent differences in male-dominated environments and female-dominated environments. Of course there are. And both are limiting.

    To the OP - I do think that if I went on a job interview and the NM gushed over the fact that I were male, that would be red flag for me.

    Oh, and for what it's worth LarryG -- I get it about the credibility, and I agree. But I don't know ya, so I won't break out the pet names yet ... :chuckle
    Oh come on Pookie, we're all friends here...........
  4. by   LPN4Life
    I just think those comments are made by people that are trying to encourage more males into the profession, I don't think they mean anything deeper than that, but I'm not a real deep person, just simple minded me. I've probably been guilty of saying something along the lines of this when trying to encourage one of my male CNA's to become a nurse, just meant as encouragement, not meant to add Credibility to nursing.
  5. by   Altra
    Quote from LPN4Life
    Oh come on Pookie, we're all friends here...........
    Okey, dokey, hun
  6. by   nursemike
    Quote from MLOS
    Okey, dokey, hun
    Off-topic, but condolences for Sheeba. Hope she's playing with Rocky.
  7. by   reddgott
    as I walked on the unit today at 2:45 I saw the only other 2 male nurses in the facility had my unit on first shift today. They hadnt met me yet so they said "welcome to the brotherhood of nursing". All I could do is laugh and think about this thread and it's posts.

    The more I reflect on the original comments in question, they probly were just being nice and without thinking just said such things for lack of something to say. It is funny though that people feel a need to address the fact that I am male. C'mon really, say you are a "hatian" and you just graduated from chef school, how many people would say to this guy "hey, we need more hatian chefs", I have never needed a hatian chef. (swedish chef...yes, but he's just plain funny). what i'm saying is thier must be some merit to the statements, and I know the male nurses out there have heard them. There must be a reasonable need / and or want for "Murses" that nobody is willing to admit because it might lead people to believe that the allmighty of female professions could benefit from a male presence.

    or I could just be full of crap. I dunno.
  8. by   LPN4Life
    Quote from reddgott
    as I walked on the unit today at 2:45 I saw the only other 2 male nurses in the facility had my unit on first shift today. They hadnt met me yet so they said "welcome to the brotherhood of nursing". All I could do is laugh and think about this thread and it's posts.

    The more I reflect on the original comments in question, they probly were just being nice and without thinking just said such things for lack of something to say. It is funny though that people feel a need to address the fact that I am male. C'mon really, say you are a "hatian" and you just graduated from chef school, how many people would say to this guy "hey, we need more hatian chefs", I have never needed a hatian chef. (swedish chef...yes, but he's just plain funny). what i'm saying is thier must be some merit to the statements, and I know the male nurses out there have heard them. There must be a reasonable need / and or want for "Murses" that nobody is willing to admit because it might lead people to believe that the allmighty of female professions could benefit from a male presence.

    or I could just be full of crap. I dunno.
    Let's try to believe the latter........lol j/k
  9. by   SmilingBluEyes
    you believe what you want; you will anyway. IF it strokes your ego to think this, then by all means, enjoy it. welcome to nursing.
  10. by   Havin' A Party!
    Quote from ktwlpn
    If a man truly wants to be a nurse then more power to him-the male nurses that you feel I 'put down" are the ones that only want to deal with the "cool stuff "but when it comes to feeding and cleaning up BM and such they really aren't interested (and no-I did not say that all male nurse are this way-but I know many that are) Sugar lips-you ain't fooling me,either....What will happen to nursing if men don't enter in droves and straighten us all out? I guess us gals are doomed to having little credibility .....The funny thing is I had no problem with men in any area of nursing-until you mentioned the credibilty issue...Your true motives are crystal clear to me.....YOU inferred that men entering nursing will lend us credibilty-that implies that we are lacking in it....-We certainly DO need all the qualified nurses we can get....we don't need men with their own agendas...."credibility" my eye....So-......I don't see the need to continue beating the horse-he's down and dead...
    Sweet Cakes -- Truly hope the airing out of all your issues (the prior ones as well as these) has been therapeutic for ya.

    In my very first post, I asked that you try to keep an open mind, not realizing all that it was already filled with. Jeepers creepers! So, so many preconceptions and personal assumptions in all your writings that it's tiring just wading through them to arrive at an iota of an argument on point that merits a response. (Makes me curious 'bout how that all got to be, and kinda sad.)

    If you can, please take a careful and objective look at everything you've generously shared. With respect, think the horse you mentioned is in your noodle. Dump it and start driving forwards. It's never too late.

    I really do wish you well, darlin'!
  11. by   teeituptom
    the best way to get men into nursing is what attracted me in the beginning decades ago, Back when nurses were wearing whites and caps and all, of course mini skirts were the thing so Nurses with miniskirted white uniforms just had me all in a Tizzy, so I went into nursing to meet all those cute little nurses, blondes, brunettes, redheads, when I chose to go into nursing I didnt think about money or credibility at all. Just beautifull women
  12. by   ktwlpn
    Quote from LarryG
    Sweet Cakes -- Truly hope the airing out of all your issues (the prior ones as well as these) has been therapeutic for ya.

    In my very first post, I asked that you try to keep an open mind, not realizing all that it was already filled with. Jeepers creepers! So, so many preconceptions and personal assumptions in all your writings that it's tiring just wading through them to arrive at an iota of an argument on point that merits a response. (Makes me curious 'bout how that all got to be, and kinda sad.)

    If you can, please take a careful and objective look at everything you've generously shared. With respect, think the horse you mentioned is in your noodle. Dump it and start driving forwards. It's never too late.

    I really do wish you well, darlin'!
    back at ya,dollbaby........
  13. by   reddgott
    ii's thanks for the welcome. can we agree to disagree, and get along? :kiss

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