Is my short career over?

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      No, get back in the saddle and ride!
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      No, but you need more education!
    • 34
      No, volunteer for Free Health Clinic!
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      No, get your experience in Somalia!
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      Yes, just retire already!

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ladies and gentlemen, i am having great difficulty deciding if my nascent career is, or should be, over. please be kind enough to tell me what you think. i am an rn with an as who recently graduated nursing school with distinction and a gpa of 3.9. i passed my nclex on the first try, in 1.5 hours, with 75 questions. i am acls certified. but, in school, they told me "nurses eat their young", and i have come to believe it's true. i'm not young; i was 58 years old at graduation, but young in the profession.

within a month of passing my boards, i found employment with a dialysis clinic, as a dialysis nurse and team leader. after a training period, they promised i would soon be charge for my shift, assess patients, pass meds, and supervise four techs.

unfortunately, they had my subordinates train me. i was thrown into the lion's den. my subordinates were techs with only 6 weeks of informal training from the company, but had many years of valuable experience. they seemed anxious to let me know that while i would be their team leader, they had no respect for me because of my lack of experience, and that they really ran the show. it was more like hazing than training. i would see them give a patient 250 ml of ns, go for a lunch break, and fail to chart it. when i suggested they needed to chart it before they left, they'd say, "you aren't the nurse yet, and you probably won't last long enough to ever be the nurse." i refrained from reminding them that while i might not have been "the" nurse, i was indeed a nurse, and tried to get along with them, thinking i could address this when i became charge.

they kept me busy with scut work, emptying the infectious waste trash and cleaning up blood off the floor, while they treated the patients. after a month of this, i complained to the clinic manager that i wasn't going to become proficient in treating dialysis patients by emptying everybody's trash cans. i needed to actually perform dialysis on patients. then the clinic manager put a stop to the cinderella treatment, and insisted they give me some hands on experience.

each day i had a different tech preceptor. everyone had their own way of doing things. each day my preceptor would complain that the way yesterday's preceptor told me to do things was wrong, and insist i must do it their way instead. i learned the principals of dialysis, the appropriate responses to dialysis related emergencies, how to access a "button hole", how to access a fistula, and became proficient at catheter care.

it was a crazy way to set it up, but they also had these tech preceptors evaluating my performance. even though i tried to be pleasant, they really didn't like me and i think they just resented having a newbie come in as their supervisor. their evaluations were less than flattering, insofar as they complained i was "slow in the performance of tasks". as my 3 month anniversary came near, the clinic manager told me that i was "too slow."

i explained that i had still not had much experience and that i would get faster with time. i also asked, "do you want me to be fast, or do you want me to be careful?" she said what she wanted both, immediately, and otherwise maybe i should resign. so, i resigned, but very gracefully, saying i was sorry it didn't seem to be working out, and that i had great admiration for the job she did, and the way she did it. i live in a small town, so burning bridges isn't a good idea. besides i did admire her, she was capable and had been kind to me. i did frankly tell her she should not be dismayed if my coworkers spoke badly of me, because they also spoke badly of her. the rest of the staff smiled in her face while making cruel remarks about her behind her back. she said she knew this. i also mentioned that it was probably an ill-conceived company policy to be trained by subordinates. she agreed, wished me well, and we parted on good terms.

within a week i was working again, this time at a community clinic with a low level of acuity. i was treating a broad spectrum of patients, pediatrics, geriatrics, diabetes clinic, surgical clinic, as well as women's health and pre-natal patients. in my first month there i learned how to perform many poc lab tests such as rapid strep, flu tests, rsv tests, urinalysis, pregnancy tests, a1c and accu checks. i learned how to assist in minor surgeries and pelvic exams and do prenatal non stress tests, ecgs and learned the pediatric immunization schedule.

everything seemed to be going along fine until, in my second month, i made my first ever med error. i had a baby who had turned 6 months old the day before he came to the clinic. his mother brought him in because she wanted him to have an influenza immunization. our "standing order" protocol dictated that if he were less than 6 months old he should get a divided dose, 2.5 ml now, and another 2.5 ml in a month. if he were more than 6 months old, he should, instead, have gotten one single 5 ml dose. as it happened i was distracted by people bustling around me, my preceptor talking to me, reaching around me to get into the med press, the unit clerk coming and taking over my computer while i was trying to look at the computer's calculation of his age, etc. i was also dehydrated, tired and rushed. i miscalculated the baby's age, thinking him one day younger than 6 months instead of one day older than 6 months. i gave him the 2.5 ml dose that would have been appropriate if he had come in two days earlier. the child was under dosed. i had only been there two months, and i still had a preceptor watching me, but she didn't notice anything out of the way, either, until it was too late.

well, anyone who has ever made a med error knows the whirlwind of reports that follow. i made out all the reports. i called the baby's mother at home and explained to her that i had made a mistake, but that it should not harm the child, except insofar as he would need to come back for the second dose. she was very kind. my preceptor dressed me down and wasn't satisfied until she reduced me to tears.

the don was livid and demanded to know why this happened. i explained that i had not been given a break, was fatigued, dehydrated, and the clinic was busy with people bustling about, and that a computer was not available to me to look up the child's exact age. she asked what could be done to prevent recurrences of this in the future. i suggested that the nurses should be given a 10 minute break in the morning and another in the afternoon so that we could refresh our minds, use the bathroom, and have something to drink, since drinks were not allowed on the floor. i also suggested that nurses drawing meds should be given a "quiet zone" around their computer for the few minutes they were drawing them. she said, "well, you're not going to get that! so forget it!" "and", the don added, "you are still on probation, you don't get to make mistakes! i'd better not hear of anything else going wrong, or you're out!"

the don also dressed down my preceptor, saying that she should have caught this error before it occurred. my preceptor thereafter became very hypercritical and no longer seemed willing to train me, actually ridiculing me whenever i asked for information. i apologized to all profusely and hoped i would be forgiven, but i felt i was never forgiven. very shortly after, i was so miserable, i resigned again.

i then decided that i needed a hysterectomy, before i got another job, because i had a prolapse and had been waiting for a hysterectomy since before nursing school, never having enough time off to do it. so i took that opportunity. my recovery was complicated by cellulitis of the cuff, and my doctor didn't clear me to go back to work for 4 months. but i didn't look for another job just yet, because my daughter's wedding, scheduled to take place on the other side of the continent, would be happening soon. i thought a new employer would never give me time off to go to her wedding, so i waited 3 more months. very soon after that, my brother in law, (of 43 years), was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer with mets, and i flew across the country to help my sister care for him until died, which occurred just last week.

now i find that i have been out of nursing school for 21 months, and have only worked a total of 6 months, at two different jobs! i spent 3 months waiting for nclex, 3 months working dialysis, 3 months working the clinic, and 11 months being unemployed, reticent, and trying to fathom my future. i'm very discouraged and actually afraid to go back to nursing. i also don't know how i can be smooth in an interview when i have failed so miserably at both jobs. i was slow at one and incompetent at the other.

einstein said, "anybody who has never made a mistake has never tried to do anything new." that's true, but maybe i'm not fit for nursing, even though i enjoyed scholastic achievement. nursing school teaches you how to be a good student, but only experience teaches you how to be a good nurse.

just last week a headhunter called and asked me if i would consider going back to the same dialysis clinic, this time as the clinic manager, since my former clinic manager had resigned. i thought about it for only 30 seconds and said, "no." i remember how the nurses and techs who worked for that clinic manager spoke evil of her behind her back. when she was not in earshot they called her a fat, ugly, old *****. i ventured to ask them how that was relevant to her job. they said, "well, she doesn't do her job very well either." actually i thought she did pretty well, i did admire her. i can imagine how those techs and nurses would treat me, who they viewed as slow, inexperienced and incompetent. they would tear me apart. and they'd be impossible to manage. it would be mutiny.

if i did go back to nursing, i wouldn't know how to smooth all this into a productive interview. and i don't know what to say in interview about the long hiatus. maybe my patients are better off having a different nurse. i have no self-confidence about it. is there anything else i can do with my degree and license? would an insurance company take me as a case manager? or do they want a lot of experience?

on the other hand, i have enough money and there is a free clinic that operates solely with volunteer staff in my town. maybe they would more patiently precept me, since my labor would be free, and maybe i could get a year's experience there, and become a more astute nurse.

any suggestions on how i might salvage my career? i do have very nice letters of reference from my clinical instructers in nursing school, as well as some of the mds and rns that i worked with at the community clinic. i'm sorry this was so long. thank you very much for your time reading this, and for your consideration of this problem.

That's possible NurseOnAMotorcycle, thanks for the thought. One of the other nurses who worked there told me when she was new, she mistakenly gave Depo-provera to a young woman who was supposed to get cyanocobalamin, and still couldn't figure out how she could have made that mistake, since one is milky white and the other quite pink! They didn't fire her, but there was a different DON when she was new. Somebody said on this thread that it seemed I didn't think it was serious. So not true. I shed a lot of tears, suffered a lot of guilt and anxiety and lost a lot of sleep over that, (which is counterproductive because then you make yourself exhausted at work the next day!). Someone else said you have to take responsibility for it and learn from it. I did. I reported it to the physician, my DON and the child's parent. I apologised for my mistake. I learned I had to sleep well the night before work, and go in fresh. I learned if I felt dehydrated it would all have to wait while I ducked into the nurses lounge and slugged down some water. I learned if the med press was crowded with arms reaching everywhere, and no computer was available, to just back up and wait for the traffic to clear. I learned to refuse to be rushed. Which means I can't ever work some high acuity services. You are a brave woman to keep going back.

If you want to work as a nurse again than go for it! You can always try to volunteer or take a refresher course somewhere before applying. If you are worried about how to explain the gap in you employment history you can always say that you didn't find them to be a good fit for a new grad, then you took some time off to be with a dying family member. Then remind them that you just took the refresher course, and now you are ready to go.

This was probably a typo but...Influenza vaccine is dosed at 0.25 ml for babies 6-35 months and 0.5ml for 36+ monthsInfluenza vaccine is not indicated for infants less then 6 months of age:-)

Yes, Lovanurse, I mispoke and meant to say the child was 36 months, and I did post a correction under my original post on page one of this thread. As for the dose, it was 11 months ago now, and I am forgetting my knowledge of it. I'm so sorry, you are correct of course, the doses should be 0.25 or 0.5. Please don't consider this ANOTHER med error, since neither the patient nor the orders are available for my perusal at this moment. The longer I wait to get back into nursing, the less possible it is, because of all I am forgetting.

Thanks Silly. I actually was not aware that refresher courses were available but it is an excellent suggestion and I think I will go that route. It may help to restore my confidence too.

First, consider going back with a new attitude. The dialysis job was a problem because you were expected

to zoom right into a role that you were not ready for, and trained by experienced but not licensed staff

you would be in charge of. I am 2 years younger than you, and when I started in 1983, there were no

breaks, limited lunch hours and on a surgical floor stopping to refresh yourself with a drink of water

for dehydration or go to the restroom was on our personal staff care plan but due to short staffing

it was an art form to reach that goal.

See if you can start part time at first with a licensed experienced nurse. An experienced LPN or RN with

any educational level who enjoys teaching an interested new RN is a treasure . There are still

many available. Take your time to grow, and soon you will be in a job you enjoy. And hopefully,

a new RN who is nervous about her first day on the job will soon be mentored by you....:nurse:

Best Wishes!

Unquestionably, I would agree with most of the advices you have received. However, I'm here to remind you that what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger!!! and no one know this more than us nurses, they may try to put us down, work us to the bone, and even treat us like slaves; but we come from a long line of Survivors. Therefore, get back in the saddle and show those barracudas that you're here to stay, it may not be in the same institution; but you're here for the long run with the rest of us. Furthermore, that's why I firmly believe that united, we shall overcome all of this negativity that shadows our beloved nursing career. Undoubtedly, let this experience be a lesson and another notch under your belt, now that you have learned how to prioritized place those skills into practice; and move on to better and greener pastures. I have no doubt that you'll succeed and please remember in the near future, when you get a newbie make sure that the cruel initiation is broken. Wishing you the very best in all of your future endeavors~

TY Ibiza! Those are such happy ubeat thoughts. More power to you!

Yes, Jahra, That sounds so encouraging! I think you have hit the nail on the head. Part time would be more my speed! TY VM for your encouragement! Best wishes to you too!

Take your time. Call up the BON and see who's offering refresher courses. Be careful while working as the only licensed professional on the floor. You definitely take clout for any mistake done under your & the DON's watch. Look into Psych facilities, as you are growing older & ICUs, ERs,OR, Neurology..etc. clinics can be a little more hectic for your liking, from reading your description. To be frank: you're not the youngest of the crop & finding employment may be a little difficult but possible. You have to take things that you have the energy for. LTC facilities may also be a better option.

Test the waters, sweets!

No, I'm not getting any younger, am I? But who is? I'll turn 60 this April. I do wonder if I might just be too old to handle it, but then I look at the young girls I went to nursing school with, and they are all complaining of fatigue too. Of course the young women go home to young children who require them to expend more energy. I go home to dogs. At the community clinic, I had the pleasure of working with a nurse who was 70, another who was 72, and one nurse, who was still working 2 days a week, when she suddenly passed away from a heart attack at age 86. She only did triage in a non urgent walk in clinic, but it kept her interesed in life, facilitated her social interactions, her skills were not wasted, and she had enough money to make ends meet. I'm going to miss her, she was a bright spot in my day. At the dialysis clinic, some of the techs complained of bad backs, while others were pregnant. The one thing they seemed to really appreciate about me was that I didn't mind lifting and pivoting patients out of wheelchairs. I was their "go-to" girl when they wanted a patient moved.

As a Registered Nurse, it is required that you take responsibility for your actions. Whether they are good or bad. Mistakes or not. It's your license that you are protecting. If you lose it d/t a med error, etc you cannot blame it on anyone besides yourself. I'm not trying to sound harsh but I want you realize YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR LICENSE and YOUR PATIENT. If you make a mistake, it's your fault not your preceptors, other people talking, etc.

You need to be able to speak up and tell them to stop talking or leave the room so you can calculate the dose appropriately and go through your double checks of the meds.

Also, while it's intimidating being a novice RN and learning from others... You have to have confidence in yourself. If you don't feel confident in something, go home- study and practice until you do. Just like you did in clinicals in nrsg school. "Practice makes perfect"- couldn't be more true in the field of nrsng.

Lastly, I'm sorry that you've worked with some really rude back stabbing people but this is life. You can't avoid them or get away from them in any field. Don't let people like this hold you back or keep you from getting the job you want and love. Words of wisdom I follow- if they gossip to you-they will gossip about you. Best way to avoid it- don't get into it. You'll find a friend eventually but until then, don't put your heart out there where everyone can trample on it and bring you down. Be confident and keep your personal distance. Don't confide in every co-worker you meet. It's sad but people can't always be trusted and will use your weaknesses and words against you.

Hope this helps. You can do it. Don't give up. You seem to have a pure heart and we need RN's like this in the world. "The essence of nursing is caring"-jean watson. Share that care and love with your patients and you'll feel satisfied at the end of every shift.

Sincerely,

katejane

THe first job sounds terrible. Whether it is pc or not, you should be MOSTLY trained by someone who is at the same level licence wise or higher than you. Yes, techs can teach you stuff you do not know, so can the unit clerk or ANYONE. but the primary person training you to do a job should have the same job or a job where they can do all that you do and more and know what your role is. example: ok for a RN or a LPN to precept an LPN. should never be a cna precepting a LPN . Maybe I would try again but in hospital. This is why as a new grad I was extremily hesitant to even apply to dialysis, clinic positions, home health etc.

i've been a nurse most of my life, so if there is an industry where newbies are encouraged to come in and teach everyone how to "better their work environment", i apologize in advance. new nurses -- or new entry-level employees of most flavors, i imagine, aren't in a position to educate everyone else on how the job should function. time enough for that when you've learned how to be a nurse and had some time to figure out how things actually do work. most experienced employees (in most industries, i imagine) have little tolerance for newbies who want to show everyone else how it ought to be done. of course, as i mentioned, i've always been a nurse so if anyone knows of an industry where brand new, inexperienced entry level employees have input in remodelling the workplace let me know.

yes, i have had jobs (not healthcare) where inexperienced, in that field, entry level employees have had input into remodelling the workplace and it turned into a disaster everytime.... ...

slightly off topic, but, i have about a year of experience. so i can comment on being a new grad( still think of myself as one, sometimes) as a very recent experience. on my floor there is a group of newer grads with less than 1 year experience. some of them get very agitated if anyone(from unit clerk to attending ) tries to tell/teach them something. they exhibit a know it all attitude and are quick to point out tiny errors in other staff memebers but heaven forbid you tell them anything. this attitude of theirs prevents many nurses from pointing out errors to them. i do, since i am primarily concerned with patient safteyand i rather not watch by the sidelines. when i was a new grad i was always asking my preceptors for input, if anyone has any comments i want to hear them. i don't cry to the manager if someone tells me, " you should have done this or do this" etc i try to learn from that. some of these nurses really do think they know it all and after following them for some shifts, it is obvious they do don't.

Gosh, can I ever relate to how you're feeling. I graduated in June, also at the top of my graduating class, I too was a mature student, and I got hired last June in the hospital I already worked at in an unregulated role. I have already secured permanent part time, was offered full time, this is all due to the hospital I work at just having an absolutely awful reputation for management and respect for nursing staff in nursing circles. My license has been placed in jeopardy more than once by inadequate staffing levels etc. Too many shifts to count I have come home in tears. I live in a suburban/rural area and I have been told in no uncertain terms by a RN I trust and respect that all of the hospitals in my geographic area are "just as bad, I know because I've worked at them all." I would try a non bed side role (my current unit is med/surg with a highly psychogeriatric patient population) if there were openings anywhere in my province (and I mean anywhere, I'd go for the right job) unless you have a ton of experience. Add to this I can count on 1 hand the number of postings in my province for full time anything, they simply don't exist. My patients love me, and I've gotten absolutely rave reviews on quite a few post discharge survey calls, but I still feel nursing is sadly largely a thankless job where our expertise and training is often trivialized by CEOs and the nurse managers trying to impress them. All this has left me quite disillusioned with the profession and wanting to leave it.

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